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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 3:45 am

Well I dont see my little ones do it. But one of my adults certainly sprayed his goodies at me. They might not to it often, but they can do it and it is ligthning fast!

And if I may say.. a pretty big load too. I could see a fine strip of venom all over my lower arm.

They were just here so might have been stressed out a lot though. Now, they never done it anymore after that.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 8:55 am

Hey guys as bro street said. I notice my Ptrans climb's her enclosure right before I go downstairs. And after amh 5-7mins I saw her in this state Smile

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Sorry for the bad quality. I shoot it with my brother's cp with low MP so... Smile




She's still moving her pedipalps and some of her legs and is that normal? Im afraid to think that she's struggling to go to her feet and Im also afraid to touch her now.

Hope she gets a good molt *crosses finger* bounce bounce
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 9:02 am

Doesn't look very good IMO. Usually scorpiond don't molt on their back like Ts do.
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I read some in the net that Parabuthus spp. do sometimes molt on their back.


This also helps them because they are much massive than other buthid's do.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 9:14 am

Could be, I don't have any experience with parabuthus. Maybe pluto or GS can say.
But I've had 2 scorpions turn like this before, and both died Sad
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Sorry about that bro Dolby Sad. I think I saw your scorp that passed away is a Heterometrus spp. I think



She just molted now Smile Imma post pics soon cheers
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 9:21 am

I have experienced a few molts which happen like this.. "back-flipped".
Might be a coincidence that all of them all males. Best way of sexing is still by pectine. Females will have the "knob"

Congrats bro Very Happy



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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/15/2011, 9:21 am

Gz dude! They are awesome growers! Whats the size difference?
All mine moult with their feet on the ground, as you would normally expect.

Apparently the Pts are strange in everything and moult on their backs Smile
I do however seen one moult, and it was just on its legs...

Sorry for the english
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tlb_05 wrote:

Sorry about that bro Dolby Sad. I think I saw your scorp that passed away is a Heterometrus spp. I think



She just molted now Smile Imma post pics soon cheers

Yep, a H. laoticus. The other one was a 3i-4i emp on heavy premolt.

Congratulations on the molt bro Smile
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Here she is now Smile freshly molted from 3i to 4i

Out of her "cocoon" lol!
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Here she is



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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/16/2011, 10:20 am

They are together with the andro species, pure magic! Gz on that beautiful fresh one!
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/22/2011, 8:48 am

Thanks GS, this is great stuff!!!
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tfleming wrote:
Thanks GS, this is great stuff!!!
Glad you enjoyed the thread. Welcome to the forum tfleming Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 18 Empty7/23/2011, 7:59 pm

Specimen: Parabuthus transvaalicus
Sex: Female
Instar: 8

Purpose: Sexing via pectine, the presence of "knobs (basal middle lamella)" near the area where the two pectine meets, signifies a female.
Males do not have these "knobs"

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again, very useful! Do they have these points of interests too, at a young age??
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again, very useful! Do they have these points of interests too, at a young age??

Yes Sam bro Smile
They should be able to sex from 2i. I believe their pectine is fixed from birth, it simply gets bigger with each subsequent molt.
Hence, to sex them via pectine at young instars is dependent on the magnification power of your camera's lens.
So far.. i still can't do it with a mere close-up lens but i think Jay can do it with his macro lens.. Very Happy

Are you getting a prime macro lens with your incoming DSLR too? excited for you, there's so much to learn from your breeding projects which i think many will surely benefit from as well Very Happy
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pluto wrote:
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again, very useful! Do they have these points of interests too, at a young age??

Yes Sam bro Smile
They should be able to sex from 2i. I believe their pectine is fixed from birth, it simply gets bigger with each subsequent molt.
Hence, to sex them via pectine at young instars is dependent on the magnification power of your camera's lens.
So far.. i still can't do it with a mere close-up lens but i think Jay can do it with his macro lens.. Very Happy

Are you getting a prime macro lens with your incoming DSLR too? excited for you, there's so much to learn from your breeding projects which i think many will surely benefit from as well Very Happy

You can also break off one of the pectines from the 2-3i molt with a razorblade and put it under a 60x or better microscope to check for the basal middle lamella that way as well.
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Envyizm wrote:
You can also break off one of the pectines from the 2-3i molt with a razorblade and put it under a 60x or better microscope to check for the basal middle lamella that way as well.

Good suggestion! *thumbs up Very Happy
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instar 4 Pt, brother or sister from the domestic violator
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Om nom nom nom.
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Can P.leiosoma be sexed with the knobs as well or is it only P.trans?
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AnthonyNeubauer wrote:
Can P.leiosoma be sexed with the knobs as well or is it only P.trans?

Yep, liosoma can as well
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This is per info:

Parabuthus transvaalicus feeder size info:

instar 2 pinheads
instar 3 crickets size 4-6
instar 4 adult crickets (YES they take them greedily, although they are 1.5x as big as the scorpion)
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I dont want this topic to die because these are simply the most awesome creepy crawlers alive!

A pic from some time ago. Instar 3 to instar 4

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Been a long time folks, hope all is well! Just had to get on here and let all those who knew about my pending year long PT order with Todd Gearheart. I ended up with both PT's and PL's in the mean time but kept communications up with Todd on my order placed a year ago. He had some problems with his PTs and ended up finding a gravid female. When she finally popped he hooked me up with 9 cb's and also a pair of G. Pulchripe spiderlings. So all faired well in the end. If anyone orders through Todd, my advice is contact him first and order something that is currently in stock and not on it's way. If you do run into the same problem that I did and there problems with WC orders from 3rd world countries just keep the communications up with Todd and he'll hold true!

I'm gonna have to check this thread out again as it looks like there is about 15 more pages on this bad boy since the last time I logged in!

Keep the Parabuthus Love going GS!!
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