[Discussion] Parabuthus spp.

Hey Bex, great sig btw!! I love the 'Scorpionism'

Also speaking of which - 'Get Over Here!!' to this side of the pond anyways, I'm thinking I have 8 P. Trans coming from another source and if my original order doesn't turn into a rip off I'll have 3 more coming at some point so potentially 11 total. Arizona Bark scorpions too which I'm not sure what I'll do with just yet, maybe just keep them but they would be breedable for sure

And yes, I feel like a kid right before Christmas as this next deal seems solid and I could have some P Trans sooner than later!! And come spring some Androctonus Mauritanicus!!!

What's better than fat tail scorps? Communal fat tail scorps!!

iitomodachi1 wrote:

What's better than fat tail scorps? Communal fat tail scorps!!

Communal fat tails? Which specie is that?

René wrote:

iitomodachi1 wrote:

What's better than fat tail scorps? Communal fat tail scorps!!

Communal fat tails? Which specie is that?

To the best of my knowledge, Brian_S (on Arachnoboards and Venomlist) keeps all his adult Androctonus spp. communally.

Really? That sounds like a catastrophe waiting to happen! I'm not gonna try that.

I was referring to Androctonus Mauritanicus. I thought that those were the only Andros able to be kept communal, as adults only sort of communal of course. That was why I had wanted that specific species in Androctonus anyways.

Mr. Mordax, does has this guy been doing this successfully for a while now? I have not yet kept any Andros so I'm curious and am excited for the connection I have made to potentially get some AM's this spring

I have never heard of this before, to the contrary I have heard that it wasn't possible!

Brian is quite the expert; he's one of the owners of Venomlist. The key, as with just about everything besides emps, is to only keep adults together and to provide plenty of hiding spaces.

Mr. Mordax wrote:

Brian is quite the expert; he's one of the owners of Venomlist. The key, as with just about everything besides emps, is to only keep adults together and to provide plenty of hiding spaces.

I've done the same. As long as the set up is big enough and there's enough hiding places and food, there should be no problems. However with the current price of these scorps, do it at your own risk.

I think if I do, I'll make sure I have a breeding pair set aside in individual enclosures

I might try it with my 0.0.6 arriving this week, just to clarify (and save ever decreasing space )!

But is it only with adults or can it be done with subadults/scorplings aswell?

René wrote:

I might try it with my 0.0.6 arriving this week, just to clarify (and save ever decreasing space )!

But is it only with adults or can it be done with subadults/scorplings aswell?

I have heard only with adults, but then again I have only heard AM's until now. I'd be a bit worried about molting brethren. It sounds like if these are communal and need a lot of space to be so they really aren't communal like AFS but they are communal in the sense that they can tolerate each other more so then being communal. Just my understanding.

Only with adults!!!! It's not "true" communal, it's just them living in their own space which happens to be with another of the same species.

Molting instars will be eaten if kept communally

Ah, okay thanks! I think I might just keep them one in each enclosure

René wrote:

But is it only with adults or can it be done with subadults/scorplings aswell?

Mr. Mordax wrote:

The key, as with just about everything besides emps, is to only keep adults together and to provide plenty of hiding spaces.

Also as backed up by Canth.

Yow sir gs bro could you tell me signs of pre molt for p trans?mine looks obese and refuse to eat

levi wrote:

Yow sir gs bro could you tell me signs of pre molt for p trans? mine looks obese and refuse to eat

Hey man

Apart from being obese and refusing food, few things i've observed when they are really nearing their molt:

- Most of the time they'll lie flat on the sand and the tail will be somewhat in a straighten position (as if they are stretching)

- Occasional flicking of their tail (which i believe that it could be their way of loosening the exo shell) even when you are far from them (which they usually only do that as an act of defense if they feel threatened by surrounding factors e.g. us the disturbing humans )

Thanks sir gs bro..ill watch out for that signs

levi wrote:

Thanks sir gs bro..ill watch out for that signs

No prob bro.
If you suspect a molt is coming up, try your best not to disturb it in the meantime (e.g. poking it lightly or swinging a stick infront of it to see if its still alive or such) which i do feel the urge to do it sometime.. haha..
then i come to a conclusion.. if its dying, its dying.. no point to do anything.. if its molting and we disturb them at this point.. they might delay their molt or die out of stress (less likely death in this case.. but hey.. they are my precious Gems so its better to be on the safe side )

Anyway.. do update us on your P Trans when it molts

Well ill try feeding her again i tried offering food twice this week and she just ignore them all..maybe im just being a paranoid noob and just jumping to conclusion bout pre-molt hehe..sir gs have you ever have an 8i ptrans my friend does and he told me its a rare thing to happen..is this true?

Hey Levi, I don't think a week is anything to worry about. Your PT is pretty new as well correct? If so it is probably still getting used to its new home and is a bit nervous. If it doesn't eat after a little while make sure you take the prey out and just wait another few days to a week and try again. I'd assume you have nothing to worry about for a month or so but I definitely understand your concern as I get that way too

GS may have some more PT specific info for you but those are my thoughts

Well the first time i feed her she eats..a small roach and she greedily eat it all..as in only the legs and a bit of the head is the only left over part..after 3 days i tried feeding her again she ignores it..and after 3 days i tried it again she ignored it again..pretty lucky roach hehe

iitomodachi1 wrote:

levi wrote:

Well ill try feeding her again i tried offering food twice this week and she just ignore them all..maybe im just being a paranoid noob and just jumping to conclusion bout pre-molt hehe..

Hey Levi, I don't think a week is anything to worry about. Your PT is pretty new as well correct? If so it is probably still getting used to its new home and is a bit nervous. If it doesn't eat after a little while make sure you take the prey out and just wait another few days to a week and try again. I'd assume you have nothing to worry about for a month or so but I definitely understand your concern as I get that way too

GS may have some more PT specific info for you but those are my thoughts

+1 on that bro. Thats my exact thoughts

levi wrote:

Well ill try feeding her again i tried offering food twice this week and she just ignore them all..maybe im just being a paranoid noob and just jumping to conclusion bout pre-molt hehe..sir gs have you ever have an 8i ptrans my friend does and he told me its a rare thing to happen..is this true?

Yes i believe its rare. A good friend of mine get his to 8i too.
Takes patience to achieve that if you start raising them at early instars of 3-4

I tried feeding my ptrans with disabled roach (all legs are removed) but she just toss it aside like she doesnt want them..i tried a few times and she just still doing the ric flair thing (where ric flair slaps the chest of his opponent and shouting woah! hehe) and no tail stinging moves..is this normal ptrans behaviour?

Do you have to do anything special to reach 8i?

lol Ric Flair the nature boy. Your P. trans may just not be hungry.