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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 1:42 pm

If you only get the outer layer with very fine tweezers, it might have more room to put its last energy into...
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 1:55 pm

I would agree with pluto's idea for a little assistance... that is really the very last resort Crying or Very sad
Preferably someone can hold a magnifying glass for you while you're at it..
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 2:39 pm

have you tried misting the scorpion or around it? couldnt hurt...
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 5:47 pm

I've tried all of the above guys. He really didn't make it much past the initial opening of the carapace. Only the chelicera are out of the old exo, and he's very weak now. Barely able to muster the strength to slowly move the tail. Literally zero progress from when I found him yesterday afternoon. He's so tiny that I can't get in there with the tweezers without mashing the new exo. I'm afraid he'll sustain internal damages if I try much more.

I'm afraid all is lost on this ones life journey.

It makes me sick, and I don't know what could have happened.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 6:07 pm

dont take it too badly though. It is very unfortunate and yes I wanted to see it get bigger too. But you know, scorplings at that instar are very sensitive. Some make it, some don't.

It really has nothing to do with your cares, which is without a doubt, very very good.
They really only can die during a moult that goes bad.

You can give it time and let it die if it doesnt come through. Or smash it. I'm not really into the freezer method.

I understand you cannot help it manually. They are too tiny. Maybe with a needle it might work, but still...

Whatever you do now, it will be a right call.

Was he misted sometime in the past?
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 6:25 pm

Yeah. I had been applying a few drops of water once a week when he started getting fat. When I realized that he was having a hard time with the molt I bumped the temp and humidity up as well. I don't think it was a humidity issue as the Hottentotta was just fine with her molt. I had given water yesterday morning before work.

I know that I did the best I could for it, which is what makes it even harder. I usually try to get multiples of the same species in case of scenarios like this, but this was my only bicolor sling. I was hoping that it was a him to raise for my 2 girls (at least I think they are girls).

As they say c'est la vie. I'll be visiting Roger for another sling when I get paid next week. Let's hope he hasn't sold them all off as I don't want to pay for shipping!
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 6:32 pm

Let's hope :-)
Better luck next time dude (if it dies)!
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 9:03 pm

Sorry Street that sucks bro. But like Pluto said don't take it to hard
this stuff just happens.

Hopefully it'll go better for you next time, and hopefully your buddie Roger still has some left for you.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/26/2011, 9:38 pm

Indeed. I tried to help it out as much as possible, but I'm afraid it has expired.

RIP
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/27/2011, 5:00 am

baaahhh, well dude.. just a typical case of bad luck. I feel for you cause I think you really wanted it to be fine. Me 2

Try to get yourself an i3, safer!
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/27/2011, 7:56 am

The bros are right mate. I'm sure its none of your fault too, yr enclosure's setting are great.
Most of us will experience this at one point or another.
Cheer up bro Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/27/2011, 8:07 am

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Indeed. I tried to help it out as much as possible, but I'm afraid it has expired.

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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/27/2011, 10:19 am

Thanks everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/28/2011, 10:23 pm

So here are some pictures of my two girls... I think. Still not able to get a clear shot of the pectines, but hopefully that will be coming soon.

Fatty girl number one
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Fatty girl number two
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/29/2011, 2:39 am

Street look into your post, yes I think both are females too.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 4:14 am

First let me just say, hey Street, my condolences.........
Second
I would like to know anything about these two species.......
Androctonus liouvillei
Androctonus baluchicus
These are two beautiful sp. of Androc. and I WANT ALOT OF THEM.... Laughing

so any info would help.........

also I would just like to say I now have 2 A. bicolor .........8 A. maurantanicus........
16 A. australis..........4 L.Q. ........5 L.Q. "hebreas".........2 Hott. hott. .........
and 1 A.a. "hector".........my little "hector" is lonely............I need a few more
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 4:21 am

Miami T wrote:
First let me just say, hey Street, my condolences.........
Second
I would like to know anything about these two species.......
Androctonus liouvillei
Androctonus baluchicus
These are two beautiful sp. of Androc. and I WANT ALOT OF THEM.... Laughing

so any info would help.........

also I would just like to say I now have 2 A. bicolor .........8 A. maurantanicus........
16 A. australis..........4 L.Q. ........5 L.Q. "hebreas".........2 Hott. hott. .........
and 1 A.a. "hector".........my little "hector" is lonely............I need a few more

You sure have lotsa hot scorpions Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:10 am

They are lesser known counterparts of the Andro species originating from Morocco.
I have an entire collection of books about them. They are all in French.

I will try to translate some of their contents concerning your questions.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:26 am

Androctonus sure are cool. Wish we could get em here. I am certain these will be listed under DWA lol. These can spray venom rigt? That's so cool. Really.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:27 am

Androctonus are not known to spray venom as far as I know, Parabuthus on the other hand...
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:31 am

Oh. Maybe I'm getting them mixed up. There's a vid on YouTube of guy making his scorpion spray by rubbing on it's telson.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:32 am

I believe that is a parabuthus transvaalicus. I saw that one. It's crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:39 am

Yep it's a parabuthus sorry. Just watched the vid again n yeah that is crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   5/31/2011, 10:57 am

It is said Parabuthus have a lot less nasty sting than Androctonus species. Well, I'd rather get stung by a bicolor than a transvaalicus.

I don't know why.. but they look more creepy to me
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Androctonus spp.   6/1/2011, 12:15 am

I would rather not get stung at all ......by anyone of them...........lol
some time this week I will be getting 5 A. maur. so tomorrow is set up time
they are about 3i or 4i.
now to just find some bicolors that I can trade A.As. for...........
once I get a few more of the Androc. that I want then I'll move on to Parabuthus
slowly getting out of Ts and getting scorps.
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