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PostSubject: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/21/2010, 8:09 pm

Gathering Parabuthus spp lovers for discussion with regards to their husbandry and breeding projects. It is not restricted to Parabuthus transvaalicus but opened to all Parabuthus spp. Feel free to post your queries or chip-in for some informative discussion with the keepers here Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/21/2010, 8:39 pm

Wow nice. That has to be one of the CLEAREST videos i have seen on this forum or even on youtube of a scorpion. Excellent quality. If no one has said yet, welcome to the forum and personally, i LOVE to look at pictures of everyone's stuff so feel free to post as many as you would like =)
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/21/2010, 9:08 pm

Cool video and pics!
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/21/2010, 9:14 pm

Very nice pics and sweet vid! It was game over after it got tagged Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/21/2010, 9:38 pm

anemiaffx:
Thanks for your kind words. The video and pictures are taken with my camera phone (iphone4)..
Video is in HD and good in quality but picture wise.. have to depend on light conditions..
DSLR with macro lens will have more decent output/control.. aiming for one soon.. heh
and yeah.. i enjoy viewing pictures in a thread too.. speaks a thousand words don't they ^^,
Look forward to see more of yours' and everyone else' too Smile

Scott Land:
Thanks mate, i like yr avatar Smile

H. laoticus:
Thanks man. ha.. yeah i ended the video recording as i intend to get a short video on the tagging part.
Maybe i can try merging with the "nom nom nom" part.. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/22/2010, 1:06 am

Purely Awesome mate.

I had to try to slow down that hunting action. Man she is fast. Seriously, seriously fast.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/22/2010, 9:03 am

Awesome pix, thanks for putting this up GS! Very Happy

I can't wait for mine to get here. I'm curious though about their venom. I try to do as much research as possible prior and I find a lot on what to do and not to do with stings and that anti venom should only be used when definitely experiencing a severe case of scorpionism. My main concern is that I'm not sure if there is any anti venom anywhere in the States. Should an accident happen the hospital would be left to do the best the can at best case scenario. Is there anything known about potentially acquiring anti venom to keep on hand and take with to a trip to a hospital in the event that the worse case scenario does happen?

Has anyone done any research on anything related to this? It is my impression that horses are commonly used for anti venom and they are injected with small amounts of venom at a time to build up certain cells that are resistant to this particular type of venom and the anti venom is then made from them as taking small amounts of blood from an animal this size does not harm it in anyway.

I'm really concerned with my son being 4 and 35-40 pounds. I have the viv's all set up already and they have padlocks on them, they are above his eye level and I plan on making some plastic screens to slope up over the front of the Viv in the event of flicking venom. I know the latter is not always the case but everyone warns of the possibility so I'm just trying to cover my bases. I am also trying to either build or purchase another large locking display case to place the vivariums in so they will be behind 2 locks actually at some point. My son is great about not touching but I want to cover all my bases twice for his sake. I wouldn't stress half as much for myself as I'm 6' and 215-225 pounds.

I have read that these are a 3 on the toxicity scale which is the same as my Hottentotta Trilineatus but I have also been reading that because of the size of PT's they inject a lot more venom making problems that much more serious.

If there are any references you could point me towards it would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone could share precautions they have taken it would be really cool and definitely appreciated as well Very Happy

Awesome pics too by the way, I'm going to watch your vid now! Very Happy Really I could resist any other species but PT's are just so darn cool looking!

**Had to add that your vids are awesome! I liked the Bicolor too and I'm even more excited for my own PT's now too!


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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 6:54 am

Hey mate, thanks for yr comments on my pics/vids.

Can surely sense your love for your family for putting in the efforts to do the research.
I have no idea about where to get anti-venom to store as backup but am surely interested to get one too.

As for securely them, i do "double tank" them and keep my room locked whenever i am not at home as an added measure.

Btw i really love to own a few Hottentotta Trilineatus too.. man they are neat looking!

There another thing i would like to share.. not so much on security but i have d.i.y a split tank for my P. Trans yesterday Very Happy

Its more of a space saver as my room is quite small to house my growing collections. Plus the cost of getting a ready made split tank in my neighborhood's pet store seemed to be overpriced..

I'll be posting up pictures in my next post to share with you guys.


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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 7:33 am

There are definitely better solutions but this is what i can do from my available resources Smile

As my tank is just a small plastic critter tank, i decide not to use glass partition and hot glue the joints.

Items i used:
- Styrofoam board (normally used as a base for drawings etc)
- Cutting knife
- Ruler
- Matt Black sticker (normally used for car/bike decals)

1) Trim the Styrofoam to the shape of your tank so that you can squeeze it in and have a tight grip to the tank
2) Wrap it with the sticker (to provide a smooth surface so that the scorps cant climb out of it)
3) Slot it into the tank






4) Add in the sand/substrates and some deco as you prefer:

This is for my P. Trans


The is for my H. Hottentottas (did a split sand/coco substrate the way my hottie likes it)


5) Throw in the scorpies!!

P.Transvaalicus (4i Male & Female) in their new home



Close up on my P. Trans



Of cos, i rewarded them with a cricket meal each!

Pse enjoy Smile
*Ps: Choose 720 HD option to view it in high reso, sry for the noisy background in part 1

>> Video of my P.Trans enjoying a meal in her new home Part 1
>> Video of my P.Trans enjoying a meal in her new home Part 2

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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 8:05 am

Awesome, thanks for sharing! Those dividers are super clean looking! And the scorps of course are beautiful.

Unfortunately I'm still waiting for arrival so my P Trans tanks are empty Sad But this is the split tank I set up for two of them. I ordered 3 as they are unsexed in hope to better my breeding pair odds and have another 5 gallon set up for the 3rd one. Below are some pictures of those. The 1st two pix are of the 2nd tank I did like this and is a 10 gallon split. The 3rd one is actually a split 5 gallon I use for my 2 mature H/V Spinigerus.

I just bought a sterilite container and cut the bottom to size and then used the aqaurium silicone to glue it in place. Not as clean but cheap and easy. I'd like to look at a cleaner solution in the future and may try your method GS, thanks again for sharing.

-awaiting PT's 10 gal split-



-H/V Spinigerus 5 gal split-
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 8:06 am

nice setup's gs What a Face

those are nice specimens as well Like a Star @ heaven


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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 8:12 am

make sure they dont climb up that silicone
i did that once and it didnt work out so well but that was C. vittatus and c. sculpturatus
but just keep an eye on them
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 8:22 am

TELOW wrote:
make sure they dont climb up that silicone
i did that once and it didnt work out so well but that was C. vittatus and c. sculpturatus
but just keep an eye on them


Thanks for the heads up, I noticed that with the baby H/V Spinigerus, they climbed a bit but never to the top and were removed right away anyway. The adult V. Spins don't even try to climb and they've been in there for a good few months. That piece of sterilite does not go all the way to the top as it was some scrap I had laying around. The PT tank however turned out a bit cleaner and I used a piece of sterilite from a container I bought explicitly for this purpose. So the silicone is done a little smoother and cleaner and the divider itself runs right up to the inner lip of the lid on the critter cage. So there is not much room between that lip and the screen also. The PT's I'm waiting for are mature and I planned on trying to breed them so at least they will be full size and a rather large scorp at that.
I will keep any eye on them though for sure, thanks for the heads up Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/24/2010, 8:25 am

cool good luck with them What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp   10/26/2010, 7:50 am

TELOW: Thanks mate Smile

iitomodachi1: Very natural and excellent setup! I'm sure your P. Trans will find themselves at home Very Happy

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