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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty2/17/2012, 2:27 pm

Yayyyy I finally got my first P. trans in the mail from Sauerkraut this morning. 2 days of being handled by US postal workers didnt seem to faze him a bit.

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Tiny lil fellah.
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I only have the ld50 lvl on there to pacify my kids. Mainly my oldest son, hes really into this with me.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty2/18/2012, 1:40 am

shadowfoot wrote:
Sorry for dragging up this old thread. I just got my P.granulatus female, just wanted to know how long I should wait for the female to settle into her enclosure before introducing the male?
Hi Mate,
Not to worry. This is a discussion thread for Parabuthus and i'm also having the intention of doing an update.

For mating guide, you may wish to refer to the following [HOW TO] thread:
[HOW TO] Guide to Mating Scorpions

There is no definite way of doing things. As different breeders may have their own style of doing things, whatever works for the keeper is fine. For a simple reference only Smile


@lmiller
Nice addition! Seems like a cute 3.instar or 4.instar (at most)
Yes, they are very hardy. A close friend of mine had the experience of sending some overseas in a 5-7 day transit.
No issue at all. They were feeding immediately after unpacking to their new enclosure.

Feel free to post your queries and share the growing up pics..
You will definitely have fun raising this lil guy up! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty2/22/2012, 11:34 am

Thanks GS, the female was not interested at all in mating. Thought this might happen as she is WC or she has not settled in that well.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/1/2012, 5:10 am

That is true. She might need time to settle down after a transit.

Anyway, i believe you might have read, most WC(wild-caught) female adult specimens are already gravid. But it's always good to have a male or multiple males on standby.

Good luck and keep us updated! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/21/2012, 2:51 pm

Nothing special. Took a few shots of a thirsty mom-to-be Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/21/2012, 3:06 pm

How far along is she? Great shots.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/21/2012, 9:26 pm

Thanks shadow!

For this particular female, she is 8 months into gestation Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/22/2012, 3:14 am

Not far from popping then? I have never kept P. transvaalicus myself even though they are in abundance in South Africa.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/22/2012, 7:57 am

Generally.. gestation period ranged from 10 to 14 months.

Yeah, it's human nature for most ppl to cherish items which are usually "out of reach"

They are a must have for advance keepers, imo Smile


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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty3/22/2012, 8:06 am

GS wrote:
Yeah, it's human nature to cherish items which are "out of reach".
They are a must have for advance keepers, imo Smile

+1

A shame I don't have any of them yet.


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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty5/14/2012, 9:49 am

Parabuthus liosoma

Sexual dimorphism:

Method 1: Sexing by the presence of basal middle lamella (bml).
Pectinal teeth overlaps between sexes in Parabuthus species, and hence it is useless to conduct a pectine tooth count. Instead, we can differentiate the sexes of most Parabuthus spp via the presence of basal middle lamella (BML). Females have enlarged basal middle lamella which look like "earlobes" at the points where the pectine meets , these are not present in males'. This sexual dimorphism is evident as early as from 2.instar which makes it possible for sexing early instar.

#1

*Feasible sexing method from 2.instar

Method 2: Sexing by Chela's comparison

#2 (Top view)


#3 (Side view)

*Feasible sexing method from 7.instar

Method 3: Difference in terms of body mass
In adult specimens, females typically appear bigger and bulkier than males. Adult males usually stays slim, although this is might not always the case. Sample picture below to show the difference.
#4


#5


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Great pics!

I've actually never realized until now, that they're so "red".
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Nice pics as always GS. They are beautiful
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty5/14/2012, 4:10 pm

Awesome pics, GS. I like the fourth one the best. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty5/15/2012, 9:47 pm

Glad that you guys enjoyed this documentation.

It's about time for a few of my 8.instar P.transvaalicus to start "popping" Rockout


Will update again Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty6/6/2012, 4:43 pm

Decided it was time to mate some of my P.granulatus.

1st mating pair:

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2nd mating pair (she was not happy about being pulled around the enclosure lol):

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Sorry for the crappy pics.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty6/6/2012, 5:01 pm

Well, good luck on the breeding.
Your pics are fine by the way.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty6/6/2012, 9:41 pm

It's great that things turn out well. Keep the updates coming Smile
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Thanks guys!
Forgot to add this:

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cheers
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty6/7/2012, 9:23 pm

Right.. the "engagement ring" rose
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty7/22/2012, 8:17 am

Just thought I would post some pics of my P. transvaalicus. Smile
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I can't see the pics for some reason. I believe you have to be a member for a week before you can host pictures though.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty7/27/2012, 10:16 am

Hello,

i like u to advice me what to do.
I have 2nd instar of parabuthus transvaalicus. For about 3 moth everything went ok, he ate normally and so on but today i found him in terrarium lying on his back, when I carefully turned him right, he started to walk but very slowly, he is completely slow and seems like half-dead.
Do you somebody have any idea what is going on? Thank you in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 23 Empty7/27/2012, 10:22 am

Was it in pre-molt?
If yes, then it was probably preparing for the molting process, as P. trans sometimes molt on their back.
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