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blee Pandinus
Number of posts : 3 Age : 39 Registration date : 2012-03-06
| Subject: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/20/2012, 3:23 pm | |
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| | | shebeen Tityus
Number of posts : 507 Age : 64 Location : Mountain View, Calif. Registration date : 2011-05-15
| Subject: Re: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/21/2012, 6:15 pm | |
| People who keep dart frogs use false bottoms for drainage. Their enclosures often employ misters and foggers to maximize humidity and water live plants. The primary concern for these types of enclosures is getting the water added from above out of the substrate, thus the substrate should not come into contact with the drainage reservoir in the false bottom.
In a tropical scorpion enclosure, false bottoms are used to get moisture (water) into the substrate from below using capillary action. In this case, the water reservoir is filled with gravel or clay hydroballs to which the substrate is placed in direct contact. The substrate is typically separated from the gravel with nylon window screen to prevent the scorpion from digging into the gravel.
I use nylon wicks, rather than gravel, in my false bottoms to reduce weight. In larger tanks, a couple inches of gravel becomes quite heavy. In either case, the goal is to transport water in the bottom of the tank up into the substrate. For this to happen, the substrate needs to be in contact with the transport medium, be it gravel or hydroballs or wicks. Evaporation alone, i.e., no contact with the substrate, won't do the job. | |
| | | KingofHearts Hadogenes
Number of posts : 51 Age : 36 Location : North Dakota Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Re: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/21/2012, 9:47 pm | |
| - shebeen wrote:
- People who keep dart frogs use false bottoms for drainage. Their enclosures often employ misters and foggers to maximize humidity and water live plants. The primary concern for these types of enclosures is getting the water added from above out of the substrate, thus the substrate should not come into contact with the drainage reservoir in the false bottom.
In a tropical scorpion enclosure, false bottoms are used to get moisture (water) into the substrate from below using capillary action. In this case, the water reservoir is filled with gravel or clay hydroballs to which the substrate is placed in direct contact. The substrate is typically separated from the gravel with nylon window screen to prevent the scorpion from digging into the gravel.
I use nylon wicks, rather than gravel, in my false bottoms to reduce weight. In larger tanks, a couple inches of gravel becomes quite heavy. In either case, the goal is to transport water in the bottom of the tank up into the substrate. For this to happen, the substrate needs to be in contact with the transport medium, be it gravel or hydroballs or wicks. Evaporation alone, i.e., no contact with the substrate, won't do the job. This guy knows his stuff! The only thing I would add to this conversation is that if your using a false bottom for a Emperor scorpion, some people suggest gluing a small peice of pvc pipe or something similar to the bottom so that you can easily refill the water on the bottom. From what Ive read its a choice kind of thing. You can also pour water down the corners of the tank. If you use the pvc make sure you can cover the hole somehow so your scorp dosnt fall in. | |
| | | blee Pandinus
Number of posts : 3 Age : 39 Registration date : 2012-03-06
| Subject: Re: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/24/2012, 5:19 am | |
| Ahh... Thank you!! you guys clarified my question. Now, I am off to set up my false bottom for the new habitat!
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| | | shebeen Tityus
Number of posts : 507 Age : 64 Location : Mountain View, Calif. Registration date : 2011-05-15
| Subject: Re: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/25/2012, 1:54 pm | |
| The fill tube also doesn't need to be a tube or pipe--a 1" wide strip of plastic (from a water or milk jug, etc.) placed vertically in a corner of the tank will do the trick. It can be fastened with silicone or just held in place by the substrate. The point about covering/blocking the fill tube is a good one. It not only prevents small scorps from falling into it, but feeders as well. | |
| | | KingofHearts Hadogenes
Number of posts : 51 Age : 36 Location : North Dakota Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Re: Building a false bottom, which one's right?? 9/26/2012, 9:41 am | |
| @shebeen: I never thought about the plastic strip, thanks for the good idea! | |
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