misterm16ge's communal arizonesis (viv pic, adult m/f movin into viv on 8 26 11)

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the viv is named"Valley of the F*ck" there's a f*ck rock in the middle
thanks for the name shining!

40 gallon tank measures 36X12X18

2parts playground sand, 1/2 part spagmoss, 1/2 part excavator, 1 parts eco earth coco fiber

shishkebob sticks to reinforce like re-bar.

10 1/2" sub clumps well

there's a wall connecting the 2 mound cliffs with loose cocofiber top layer, stick reinforced-flat rocks.

loose cocofiber sprinkled all over and to have a slight slope against the cliffs, wariness for falls

more suggestions welcome! viv is still drying, for the strongest burrows!

one suggestion: sand to add uniformity and make it art. my decision: after scorpions' adjustments, adding sand in a tiger stripe pattern inline with the burrows.

and i will use walmart velcro industrial strength pro series 4"x2" tape, 000 759 679 1486, to secure the metal screen lid.

havent decided on the string type, but i want weave it around the sticks and make a rope bridge across the mounds

easy name for it.i still say the sticks are redundant if you got the sub mix and packed it all down well.if you have a haddie fall on to one of those vertical shishkabob sticks you might have a hairy shishkabob.they look tacky bro no offense.are they there just until it all dries?

i said you should add sand on top randomly so its not so uniform.
get some hemp rope.hehehehe indiana jones style! looks good to me.
now await the desert hairy keepers replies.

the valley of f*c*!

hemp rope ladder! sweet suggestions! after the lil ladder, ill remove the extra sticks ... more will reply?! sweet!

to tell you the truth i dont think the shishkabobs are gonna do what you hope em to do.good idea.but rebarb is thick and has grooves so the concrete can kinda bond to,tree and plant roots grasp the dirt,sand,soil or whatever it grows in.shishkabob sticks are thin,smooth and round.aint grasping nothing or bonding. i dunno though i never had desert hairies or had to deal with desert burrowing species but from my experience looking at everyone else that keeps them,they dont use any support systems for their subs.they just get the mix right and pack it all down.id take em out now. it comes down to this we can tell you our opinions and what works for us but its your setup and your scorpions do what you feel is best for em.

ask around here and local specialty shops and see what they say.

yeah im going overboard... they burrow, not terrestial so a rope ladder wouldnt do anything. taking the sticks out...

id say overboard with the shish sticks. i was thinking of a hemp rope bridge from one plateau to the other looking like indiana jones status.that would be awesome if it could be made to work.a ladder,no they climb everything(minus smooth surfaces) with ease anyway.

they might meet on the bridge like mortal kombat and battle,having a pit fatality on those shish stix.watchout!!!!!!! if so dont stop it just record!heh heh heh

oh coo.

Mortal Kombat SCORPION VS SCOPRION pit fatality! muahhahahhha LMAO

if pandinus is a noob rank, i respect it

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Monday - Friday: 10am - 9pm
Saturday 10am - 6pm
Sunday: 11am - 5pm

Our address is:
3201 S. Mill Ave.
Tempe, AZ 85282

definitely ditching the sticks. i could hot glue flat walls on the walls of the valley with a slope and a simple hemp rope bridge from plateau to plateau

gonna pencil poke every possible hide for encouragement

called the pet store today. arizonesis should have arrived last friday. but they told me that they making calls. well i assumed my scorps should be moved in by this friday. the substrate is well packed and dry already

yep thats the place.prepare for an orgasm when you walk in.

hopefully your haddies didnt get lost in transit and are alive and well.

id say get your bridge ideas and things you are going to use and shoot it by the forum for thoughts,suggestions etc.

hahahahha! every1's got humor here!

i feel like getting a refund! but i'll be patient until friday...

idk... i might just make time to scorp hunt! i love camelback mountain! so i'm sure, im hiker enuf to find scorps

yup! i'll stick to just the forum no book

on your next day off, would you like a ride up there?

hopefully it's a wkend. but eh, if it's planned, i can make time

i love my scorps!

i removed all the sticks...

other mods:

hemp rope bridge from one plateau to the other looking like indiana jones status

line the valley with sloped, super-glued, flat stone walls

add sand top soil for finishing touch

camelback mountain? f no! its freaking hot and im def not going at night you creep.might try to rape me or something .

pets inc.sounds cool though id go there anytime even with a nun on her period.

you added super glue adhereing flat stones on the glass walls?
you already got the hemp bridge and materials?

i would use hot glue or non toxic silicon safe for fish to glue stuff.just me.

LMAO ALLLright Giddity Giddity GOOOOOOOOOO hahahahha

super glue adhereing?? cool... non toxic silicon safe for fish?? ....
coo!!! i needed that guidance! sounds like a raid to the ocean floor!

velcro tape and hemp is back order with home depot still.

still need the flat stones.

im not sure if i should make the flat stoned wall a separate structure or bond it to glass?? and part of it will rest on the "f*ck rock"

the flat stones you speak of are going to be whats adhered to the hemp rope right?
might want em stuck to the glass unless you can think of a more sturdy structure that wont interfere with the stability of the plateaus burrowing stability.

no no... the rope is just a rope decoration, alone.

flat stones will make vertical walls on the sides of the valley, the cliffs

my tiny f*ck world hahahha

adhering flat stones to glass and not the rope. LoL

maybe it's better to jus tack a hemp line from wood bark burrow to wood bark burrow?

there are zero sticks and their holes remain encourage burrowing!

k... so after, non toxic silicon safe for fish to glue, dries... how long should i wait before i introduce the scorps?

(still dnt have them yet) !@#$#@%

im going to be pissed at the store if i wait by friday. it's an overnight order thats taking 1 and half weeks!

they do have backgrounds you can get if you trying to use the flatstones as a background.cork bark works good too,you could wedge em between the glass and substrate like i did with the bark in the c.sculpt viv so you dont have pieces of flat stone stuck on the glass forever or having silicon to clean up.

id wait 48 hours before introducing them to the viv if you do use silicon.the directions say wait 24 hours but from my experience in resealing an aquarium it takes longer for all the smell to go away and fully dry.

if your going to make that bridge between the two plateaus i wouldnt attach it to the wood thats creating your dune hides.might have to wedge four posts in the sub just outside the plateaus to connect the indiana jones bridge.
its all trial and error and you dont wanna be messing it all up with the scorps in there so you better get on that making sure the materials you use are sufficient for what their purpose is and stable before you even have the haddies.

hmmmm cork bark :D:D:D

great guidance as always shining!

i am planning to show up to the pet store to raise hell on friday for my overnight order. overnight shouldnt take 3 wks...

If you just want something on the side of the enclosure that looks like rock for decoration,
you might want to check out the vinyl floor tiles at Home Depot. They're a bitch to cut,
but they only cost $1. I'd recommend leaving the paper backing in place unless you want
them to be permanent.

sweet! $1!

im adding tile to my next shipment of velcro tape!

i think, i should tile it. bc the h.arizonesis's tank will be beside them. i doubt c.sculpturatus believe glass will stop h.arizonesis on the munchies hahahahah

thanks

yessss i sent you a link to Shebeens awesome h.arizonensis viv.take notes.
at this point i say forget about the bridge or rope and just go for a natural look.

once again if you add that tile your gonna have to move all your substrate to fit it in and pack it all down and dry before you put your hads in.

backorder wtf? go to lowes or wal mart.

and thanks Shebeen for coming in.

thanks shebeen! thanks for all the help shining!!!

my original dream was to have more than 2 communal h.arizonesis. some posts say 3 could live in my 40 gallon viv

i'd like to have the 2 adults and slings together until slings are pinhead crick ready and leave the most aggressive/largest juvenile with the 2 adults. i want to breed the largest and most aggressive.

i'd happily go for a natural look.

right now, i'm thinkin: substrate to the top, lined with flat stones, and have the f*ck rock supported by a flat stone structure working as a f*ck rock and partition??

is my original goal, more feasible with a partial false bottom?

beautiful setup, shebeen! partial bottom and incline!

i already got some names lined up for em, trooper, brawler, baby killer, long rifle, reaper, skirmisher,spook, depends on their personality... i dream of these scorps. thinking they are like troops overseas, burrowing into hescos and stinging around large rocks to their prey. i want to put war trophies in there. maybe shiny ones attracts insects and gets sniped like a hostile smoking a cigarette at night or a dubia-sadam burrowing as the coalition pursues him. or maybe a scorp jumps a cliff jump to eat osama muhahahha

can someone else answer this one?

Greg i told you how i felt about slings with the adults and p.false bottom for community of this species.