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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 Empty6/14/2011, 5:12 am

Fingers crossed and thanks, I'm going to check what your female did more closely.
The male I have however, is pretty big... so I don't really have anything to compare a female to.

Did your 8th instar female grow by a lot during the last moult? My female is as big as my previous female, but she looks too fresh to be in her final moult.

The male is way bigger than the male I had.
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PostSubject: Re: [Discussion] Parabuthus spp.   [Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 Empty6/14/2011, 5:15 am

After seeing this size difference I am almost certain she needs a moult (or two)... if your male is as big as my male, then I think my female still has some moults to go.

I almost feel sorry for him in that vid lol
Thanks for the video.
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My p trans is a "walking sausage" for 2 weeks now and still feeds

Well I see the new body under his pinkish, rubbery body Smile

I wish she would molt Smile
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Wait till they get bigger, they keep feeding so it seems... Even my mature male eats 3x as much as my andros... really, they're piglets :-p
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the other one's not eating Sad for 2 weeks now

seems he rejects prey and not movin at all Smile

love to see him molt Smile

oh and one thing do they need dark rooms etc. to molt or help em molt?
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If he has a hide which gives almost pitchblack shades, 30 degrees celcius, a nice fresh airflow and food he/she is ready to go.
The only things they need really, is to be at ease by not getting disturbed....

The only extra thing I do on mine is spray the walls of the enclosure once a week lightly. This is not necessary I think, but I do it to be safe and havent had any mycosis yet.

I figured, when it is really really hot in the desert and really cold at night, condensation must be formed on the ground....

This is why I only do it during the mornings too...

Havent had a scorp die on me yet.. in the past yes, but I had them several years.
What I do notice is that when a hide has a big entrance, they will close it with dirt, since then I push my hides almost completely in the sand and let them dig under it. I presume this is because too much light comes in, which they feel is dangerous for them.
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Yes they are somewhat dark under their hides and the female one does kick sands near her hide

Thanks bro pluto Smile
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no prob bro tlb, imho they're the most awesome species out there..
I'm inclined to say A. Bicolor and these, for a tie. They have spunk!

Hope they get a good moult, maybe your male will moult sooner or is he less fat?
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pluto wrote:
If he has a hide which gives almost pitchblack shades, 30 degrees celcius, a nice fresh airflow and food he/she is ready to go.
The only things they need really, is to be at ease by not getting disturbed....

The only extra thing I do on mine is spray the walls of the enclosure once a week lightly. This is not necessary I think, but I do it to be safe and havent had any mycosis yet.

I figured, when it is really really hot in the desert and really cold at night, condensation must be formed on the ground....

This is why I only do it during the mornings too...

Havent had a scorp die on me yet.. in the past yes, but I had them several years.
What I do notice is that when a hide has a big entrance, they will close it with dirt, since then I push my hides almost completely in the sand and let them dig under it. I presume this is because too much light comes in, which they feel is dangerous for them.

Very good insights on the misting part bro pluto Very Happy

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the other one's not eating Sad for 2 weeks now
seems he rejects prey and not movin at all Smile
love to see him molt Smile
oh and one thing do they need dark rooms etc. to molt or help em molt?


Don't worry bro, i'm sure you'll be very delight to witness the transformation to a bigger P.trans soon Very Happy
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This is the best thing that has happened to me this week!

I've mated one of my 8th instar P.Trans female with my largest 7th instar male Very Happy

A shot at the monster's lair... a reflection on the glass wall shows an eagerly waiting grandpa getting ready for action..
[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 PTrans_mating_by_GS_Pic1

Upon entry to the female's enclosure.. the male started juddering even when he's right at the other corner from the female..
Seemingly, he has sensed the female's pheromone...

He located the female within 15 secs and performed at locked down with his claws..

[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 PTrans_mating_by_GS_Pic5

They kissed..
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They danced..

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& they danced...
[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 Parabuthus_transvaalicus_mating_by_GS

He found a good spot, deposited his spermatophore and dragged the female towards it..

[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 PTrans_mating_by_GS_Pic6

The symbol of their love..
[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 PTrans_spermatophore_by_GS

The love making vid..



Now.. its time for the long wait Smile
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Scorpion porn awesome lol Smile
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lol it is however great bro GS, gz!
Now the boring part, WAITING!

No really I envy you there mate, its great to see it worked out!

BEX you little perv you! Are you coming to pick up your andro personally? Twisted Evil
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no chance you scare me! lol

did you hear the story of dolbyR tattoo? (think it was him sorry if im wrong) got a tattoo of two scorps fighting but ands up its 2 scorps mating now he has scorpion porn on his arm lol Smile
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lol elephant I cant help it I was born twice the normal size!
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Yep Bex, that's me. I'm considering Jay's suggestion on adding a flatrock and a spermatophore to make it clear enough LOL
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lol! I loved that story, mate I will do that for you!! Add a couple more and you could have a scorpion orgy! Laughing I now take payment in scorpions you know.

GS, mad as always.
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DolbyR wrote:
Yep Bex, that's me. I'm considering Jay's suggestion on adding a flatrock and a spermatophore to make it clear enough LOL

haha you should so do that lol Smile
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pluto wrote:
no prob bro tlb, imho they're the most awesome species out there..
I'm inclined to say A. Bicolor and these, for a tie. They have spunk!

Hope they get a good moult, maybe your male will moult sooner or is he less fat?

before he was that "piglet" but now he is kinda becoming less fat now

the first 2 tergites are far from each other 2 weeks ago but now the first 2 are somewhat close to each other now
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GS wrote:
Finally, i've observed that for deserts scorps like P.Trans, A.Bicolor, A.Australis..
When they are in heavy premolt.. they will adopt a special position whereby her chela are bent more and more inwards their chelicerae as the day of molting gets nearer.. i'll dig out a picture to post it soon.. Smile
(ps: it might not be true for all keepers to experience this)
@tlb_05

With regards to pic of a heavily pre-molt desert scorp, i found one pic of my 3i A.bicolor sling.
It is identical to P.Trans as well. Within 1-2 weeks when this pic was taken, she molted to 4th instar.
[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 Molting2a

This is the stance of a alert P.Trans:
[Discussion] Parabuthus spp. - Page 13 PTrans_M_7instar_1

Notice the position of the premolt A.bicolor's chelas.. it is entirely different from a normal desert scorp who is just laying still to ambush their prey. The latter has chela pointing towards the front
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Scorpion porn awesome lol Smile

pluto wrote:
lol it is however great bro GS, gz!
Now the boring part, WAITING!
No really I envy you there mate, its great to see it worked out!
Yeah.. hopefully, she'll give a good brood in about 6 months time Smile

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GS, mad as always.

Thanks guys! I'll work on my other 8th instar female soon. I intend to use the same big male,
he's big and very horny after his first porn movie.. lolz
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JamieLawrence wrote:
lol! I loved that story, mate I will do that for you!! Add a couple more and you could have a scorpion orgy! Laughing I now take payment in scorpions you know.

GS, mad as always.

Better get your DWA ready..buthids seem to be the easiest to get lately Very Happy
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Think we all should lolz seems we are missing out big time
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I wish! I'd have a DWA this instance if it was just the money, that's nothing for me. It's the fact that they're not going to allow me to have a DWA when I sleep right next to my collection lol
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Good point you need it behind two doors that you can view through apparently lol how stupid a tank should class as one door surely lol
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