A new way to hold a scorp? Good or bad, come judge

Posted by 1of the member in malaysia forum

As quoted from him

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What happen if you buy ur scorpion that you thought was a longimanus,

turn out to be a spinifer, some more WC.

1. You give them new ID to make your heart feel better,
2. You get rid of those mites! :unsure:



Equipment needed.


I found out that this is the best way to hold a scorpion, grab the pincer so it won't get a chance to pinch so much (though i still got a few snap out of my clumsiness)



The best thing about this position is the scorpion eyes are covered by our hand so it feels dark ad like burrow hence it won't be that aggressive,


Well what about the telson?

This is when the tape will come in handy, tape it all around so it won't use the tail to get rid of you the hard way,

I observe that during the last two hours when the scorpion got totally annoyed will they use it.

I also found out that under the comb like structure is the favourite place for mites, so i korek all especially between the legs and segments.

It took me almost 2 hours for one scorpion, now feel light headed already lol

Lesson: Go get a captive breed, support captive breed all the way!

Bad thing about WC: the parasite can jump to your other collection,

so what I did is to all my WC, I apply vaselin on surrounding the terrarium and quarantine it from the other collection.

Hope this helps! :w

Good luck.

Warning: Do not attempt on end species scorpion that have freaking potent venom, especially if you are a newbie, if you wish to carry on, all risk are subject to yourself, so be responsible, your life is more precious than your pets though all of us know we cannot live with it

Play safe!

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very nice, 1st!!

A new way to hold a scorp? Good or bad, come judge.

I'm neutral, practically it made it easy especially to the hard to reach area where you need extra space to work on and different tools to apply to the scorpion.

The use of carbon dioxide, in my point of view can also make this method possible for deadly species such as lq itself,

as long as the telson is secure, the next step in mites termination is just 1inch away.

my none-cents.

Quite clever but im sure the scorp will be uncomfortable upside down.

hmmm.. imformative but is it easy to navigate???

very unconfortable.. but have to get rid of the mites what ever it takes...

Grabbing LQ in this way? lol
LQ way smaller la aros, din u see mine yet at exhibition?
And they are very defensive and sure struggle and accident might happen

Still use a container with a hole big enuff to stuff in the cotton bud with vaseline work best for potent venom sp if u ask me

Exactly, because LQ is so small so we need better extension to get rid of mites at more minute places.

have u ever seen people who milk venom out of a huntsman before, using a tweezer like device?

the extend where bigger space allowed better handling and efficiency to get rid of the mites,

that's y i mention the usage of C02 to knock the scorpion first,

then tape the telson for second insurance,

then ur set to go.

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Quite clever but im sure the scorp will be uncomfortable upside down.

I'm sure they would not be comfortable with mites infesting their genital opperculum and having chance to strike the book lungs,


not just damaging the health but potential in killing the scorpion too,

I'm sure by using a container with poke hole, risk are higher that we might injured the animal while some area like underneath the genital opperculum are more to restricted and very hard to reach.

i've seen that in a documentary before.. but where you will get pure Co2? too much and its dead.. to low it will come alive and tag u... just have to use the olden style a hole in a box...

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but where you will get pure Co2?

i believed the dry ice is a good source of carbon dioxide,

ask from any ice cream vendor ice box.

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too much and its dead.. to low it will come alive and tag u...

this is where improvise take course,

the use of thick leather glove will probably help that could inhibit the telson from penetrating the skin,

equipment like tweezer are also useful,

about the dose,

i remembered some post in arachnoboard about certain doses for tarantula,

however the doses might yet be consider because the usage of co2 is still not consider totally safe for me,

some risk, some gain.

hello guys ..it me lol ....

correction about the dose,

an old friend said that the co2 works as long as it is in,

means if you let it for 15 mins, it will be knock out for 15 mins.

credit to mr stewart.

so you must keep an eye on the watch then...

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so you must keep an eye on the watch then...

well i believed alert is the best quality when handling venomous animals besides calm,

so eyes on everything, not just watch :p

my-none-cents.

Initially I was concerned about how much stress the scorpion would be put through when handled like this, but when I saw the purpose, I think I can support the idea.

Personally, I've never encountered the grain mites that would necessitate this method, but I think I can see using it if the need arose.

First of all

thats a very stupid way of handling a scorpion and i whouldnt recommend anyone of doing this, and seriously ? Mites? they can be removed by keeping your scorps dry for a periode and secound check the animales you buy for mites first, there is alot of mites you find in the subtract thats not harmfull for scorpions

using co2 to "stunt" your scorpion is still really silly, you can easily milk venom from scorpions without doing so and i dont belive i have seen a LQ having mites before, since the mites need moist to live..

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thats a very stupid way

thanks for the warmth welcome, it is me who hold the scorpion btw.

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keeping your scorps dry for a periode

this won't happen in my place,

daily mean temperatures between 26.3 and 28.6ºC or more.

humidity between 81.0 (0800hrs) in the morning to 43 in the evening (1600hrs),

relative humidity (28 February 2009) in reference to meteorologicalstation in Petaling Jaya (average from 0800-1600 hrs) is 68.67%.
believe me, i've tried dry condition and it's the host that actually dried out.

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secound check the animales you buy for mites first

I will try to bring headlamp next time when I visit any shopping mall to check on any petshop. thanks btw.

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find in the subtract thats not harmfull for scorpions

i believed u mean substrates sir, yes some might not be harmful if it is on the substrates. but the one i'm talking about is on the scorpion.

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using co2 to "stunt" your scorpion is still really silly

I'm sorry, this thing just crossed my mind, the one u saying silly is probably anyone out there who might have succesfully try this method.

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i dont belive i have seen a LQ having mites before

do you belive that LQ can survive under CB in the equatorial?

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since the mites need moist to live..

unfortunately the mites can survive as long as the host survive, they suck the moisture out of it.

For an administrator, you did good in making me annoy,

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Be nice -- you were a noob once, too

- sounds familiar?

bear this in mind, pro

anyhow, if i am wrong, please correct me in a professional way, we are all civilized here.

aros wrote:

For an administrator, you did good in making me annoy,

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Be nice -- you were a noob once, too

- sounds familiar?

bear this in mind, pro

anyhow, if i am wrong, please correct me in a professional way, we are all civilized here.

Hm lets see

Bear in mind that correcting spelling mistakes and just quoting out my post to make some dumbremakes at some of them isnt a smart move.
Well the thread said, come judge and i did and i dont care who's it is thats handling that scorp like that, if it was anorther admin or a users grandma i whould still have used the word stupid about it because that what it is, extreme stress, both scorpion and personal injoys can happen and some keepers go nuts because they find crickets babies they tank, thinking they are mites and unless the mites are stuck to your scorp and not moving its the bad kind of mites.. and Yes the dryer method works and you can have a dry tank even if you live inside the rainforest, and lets see.. doesnt the equator go througe Tanzania ? and in Tanzania lives Hottentotta sp and some orther dry living scorpions? :O can they get mites ? oh yes but keeping them dry works out perfectly

using co2 is silly because you need to have pretty good control of the dose unless you want to kill your scorpions and putting them in the refrigerator for a small amount of time works perfectly then you get a clamer scorpion without the risk of killing it
using petroleum jelly on a quetip on the mites is allways a good way


and if any more mud throwing goes on in this thread.. its gone..

I'm with Kejser on this

I also have to agree with Kejser on this.

It is far too much effort and stress to the scorpion for a simple removal of mites.

Whether we like it or not mites are part of the hobby, there is no getting away from that. Even the best maintained enclosures will have them to a point. It is up to the keeper to keep an eye on their collection to make sure this doesn't get out of hand.

I personally use the petroleum jelly and que tip method (mainly on my dryer species), and holding the scorpion down with the use of kitchen roll to prevent nips to the fingers. It is a VERY QUICK method, causing as little stress to the scorpion as possible. A two hour stint for a scorpion in mite removal is way too much.

In addition I also have pill bugs in my humid enclosures that keep little pests to a minimum, and eat the remaining nutrition from the feeder item husks, thus starving the mites.

I personally cannot endorse this kind of handling at all.

I think this would be stressfull on the inexperienced person trying it this way, the potential for nips and getting stung seem vastly multiplied. Too complex a procedure in my opinion

i dont want to fuel the fire in here but arent we (as in all of us inc kejser) should address their opinions in a mannerly way. its just a discussion and sharing thoughts.
put that aside i have to say that we here in the tropical regions have very high humidity level and one can use many ways in keeping the mites away. For me, if i seen any walking in and about the tank i just change the whole substrate before more appears. But some may have an infestation more than i would ever imagine. As i recalled last time one of our dear friends has a high level of infestation. What he done was to place the scorp upside down in another tank but with a large hole below it so that he could do the necessary surgery to remove the mites.
whats ever it is we should address other oppinions in a calm rational way.
just my 2 cents

Rideon wrote:

For me, if i seen any walking in and about the tank i just change the whole substrate before more appears.

The ones that walk about the tank are the good predatory mites that eat the bad grain mites . . .

oh ok.. so i did wrong then.. learn new thing every time.. well i always cahnge the substrate every month or so.. by the way off topic a bit, what do you do if you found out that ur scorp have been infected by mycosis?

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Well the thread said, come judge and i did and i dont care who's it is thats handling that scorp like that, if it was anorther admin or a users grandma i whould still have used the word stupid about it because that what it is, extreme stress, both scorpion and personal injoys can happen and some keepers go nuts because they find crickets babies they tank, thinking they are mites and unless the mites are stuck to your scorp and not moving its the bad kind of mites..

alright, understood, my method is stupid, i accept that. and i have to make a stand here too, ur ego in correcting others at one point is imbecile.

it doesn't matter who, it's just prudently unethical for you, educational people to act in a line of such.

And I understand the difference between the real mites, springtail and crickets too, I don't conduct the operation for fun.

My scorpion was at a level where I think it is appropriate to conduct such an action, yes I will consider the option suggest by you guys the next time.

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and Yes the dryer method works

if you insist...

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using co2 is silly because you need to have pretty good control of the dose unless you want to kill your scorpions and putting them in the refrigerator for a small amount of time works perfectly

both have risk, I'm neutral about this.

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and if any more mud throwing goes on in this thread.

oh and i thought -Scorpions In General- is where we do
General Chat, Discussion & Information about Scorpions!

its a clean discussion I believed, beforehand, forgive my emotional due to the word 'stupid' u use.

cheers-
Aros.

My apology for creating a potentially flame thread here
Didn't see it coming...
Since we have the results here where majority that disagree with this method then lets close down this thread
Mordax or keyser, please =p