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LadyRiotControl
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PostSubject: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/3/2009, 5:45 pm

I bought a new critter keeper for my T and when taking him out his hide broke a section of his leg it didn't break off but started oozing a greyish liquid and he can't put pressure on it what do I do?
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/3/2009, 5:51 pm

MIKE where are you???
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/3/2009, 6:00 pm

firstly... DONT PANIC!!!!

the liquid is hemoglymph (i might have spelled that wrong lol) which is tarantula blood

tarantula's have a pretty cool trick when it comes to broken limbs. I know at the beginning of the leg nearest the body they have this swish little valve. when a leg gets damaged this valve closes and the tarantula will just nip off the leg

the leg will grow back but if you have a sub adult male it probably wont grow back much for obvious reasons

however if you have a female or juvi this will no doubt grow back too it's full extent. we have had sever tarantula's who have damaged legs or have been bought with a gammy leg. and they are all fine.. in fact our male haplopelma sp. 'vietnam' mated with a gammy leg and a missing leg!

so all in all not a problem Smile
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/3/2009, 6:15 pm

it got broken near the end of the leg the furthest joint from his body. I feel soooooo bad Sad and he's full grown I feel wretched he's never going to be the same is he?
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 3:55 am

Something like this happened with my rose hair. Her foot got damaged in a molt. if it's leaking fluid, you should probably amputate it for the better good of the spider. It's not too hard. You just need to grab the leg close to the body (somewhere within that first segment) and pull straight up. If that doesn't work, find a way to restrain the spider and pull the leg out. You'll see a bit of fluid leak from the joint on both the body and leg, but don't worry, the body side seals up pretty quickly, and don't freak out if the leg keeps twitching for a few minutes. lol
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 2:16 pm

Personally I would let the tarantula decide whether it wants to amputate the leg or not! They are pretty good at sorting themselves out and can quite happily carry on with their lives with a gammy leg still in place. It certainly wont hinder it during hunting / feeding/ mating.

I certainly wouldn't recommend trying to amputate the tarantula's leg, if you get it wrong you are going to cause serious injury to your tarantula and / or end up getting bitten!

In our experience a tarantula with a broken foot is less likely to amputate the limb than with an injury further up the leg. And it will still use the rest of the leg to walk around on and balance on. It certainly hasn't hindered any of our past specimens.

It may not look very pretty but I can pretty much bet you are more bothered about the broken foot than the tarnatula is lol!
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 3:02 pm

superglue it if its still bleeding.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 3:28 pm

Yeah I'm def not amputating my spiders leg scratch He seems to be alright it's still visibly broken though.Your prob right ladyriot my guilt is bugging me more then anything.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 4:55 pm

_scorpio_ wrote:
superglue it if its still bleeding.
I hope for your T's sake your kidding.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:26 pm

If a tarantula has a severe breech in it's exoskeleton super glue is a commonly used adhesive to prevent further 'blood' loss. Some people put tissue paper on a wound to 'plug' the hole and prevent blood loss.. rather like when you cut yourself shaving

If memory serves me super glue was also originally designed to aid in medical procedures in humans. i.e. joining skin together. Or something similar to that anyway.

And after discussing this further with my hubby, he confirmed that tarantula's have this 'cut off' valve in each segment of the legs so no matter where the break is, they can quickly cut off circulation to that limb and therefore prevent further blood loss.

Damages to legs although look unpleasant, is pretty much water off a ducks back to a tarantula. the main cause for concern is an abdominal breech where they can bleed profusely
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:29 pm

So he will be alright then? It won't stress him out? He hasn't snipped his leg off yet do you think he will keep it?
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:30 pm

he should be fine man. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:32 pm

foot injury... naah probably not.

you would expect a tarantula to nip off a leg with a mid leg breech or higher. We have actually witnessed a tarantula nip off a leg, it was totally mad, over in seconds and the tarantula carried on as if nothing ever happened.

Edit; our matt was kinda peeved off though, we had only just got this breeding pair of T's and as soon as we put the male in his space he climbed up the side, lost grip and landed on the water bowl... not impressed!!!
Anyway later on that night the leg was nipped off and less than a couple of drops of blood left the leg.


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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:34 pm

its not his foot its the next section above that right below the mid section.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:37 pm

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its not his foot its the next section above that right below the mid section.

I would have thought if it was going to get rid of the leg, it would have done it by now hun.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:39 pm

ok thank you you have been very helpful and I apreciate it.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:45 pm

forgot to ask... what sp. is the tarantula? or have I missed that bit somewhere lmao!

and not a problem thats what we're all here for Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:52 pm

He's a full grown grammastola rosea named fluffy Thats why I was worried cause he would not have grown his leg back.broken leg N6757112
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:54 pm

he's so kind and gentle too he didn't deserve that.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:56 pm

no sadly not I'm afraid, however if you do introduce him to a girlfriend it will not hinder him.

Like I said we personally have seen our haplopelma sp. 'vietnam' successfully mate with a leg missing and a break in the same leg area yours has suffered... in fact pictures are here somewhere in the tarantula section .. or a link to the thread on the BTS website Smile
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 5:58 pm

doesn't the female kill the male?
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 6:02 pm

female rosea's can be quite aggressive and they have been known to attack males before proceedings take place! but there have been lots of successful breeding's.. be prepared is the motto with any tarantula mating session!

even the fittest male can falter to a female rosea :S
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 6:05 pm

He's an old man though I don't think he'll be with us much longer I'm hoping one more year because I love him to death. I'm trying very hard to find a Brazilopelma colloratvillosum but it's hard.
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 6:07 pm

ooooh we recently sold ours to lycanlord. beautiful T's
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PostSubject: Re: broken leg   broken leg Empty4/4/2009, 6:09 pm

They are soooo hard to find here a close friend of mine works at a popular pet store they have almost 100 breeders and she has been making phone calls everyday for me for the last week so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. However they did find me a tailess whip scorpion wich I hope to get in a month or so.
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