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PostSubject: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 10:37 am

Hey everyone, some of you may remember a while ago me asking various questions about setting up an asian forest tank? Well I have now got everything and have got back off holiday so its all systems go! Im currently watching my 2 bricks of substrate expand in the water I can then start the decor! I'm going to ring the local reptile shop and ask what they have got in they may have to order an asian forest but hey whats a few more days? I plan to get a baby and watch it grow! Is this a good choice?

I will post pictures when I'm done!
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 11:01 am

good luck maybe not a baby but a subadult would be a better idea for your first good luck sam
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 11:31 am

If it's a big tank, I'd suggest several babies.

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 11:38 am

Oh ok, why is that? are babies harder to look after? I have just done my substrate but instead of doing 1 brick with 4 litres i did 2 bricks with 8.5 litres and well i think I havent got enough substrate and its to damp =[
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 11:38 am

Its about 2 foot and with this being my first scorp I think I better keep it at the one for now plus Im broke! =[ typical teen!
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 1:26 pm

yea there a bit more sensitive. go for a couple of 4i scorps and you will get 2 more moults till adult so probably over a year and that way your not getting some old one with a few weeks left.
look around a bit. you can often find a better deal on the internet. ill have a look for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 2:09 pm

i reckon you should be ok rearing young ones as long as you get the conditions right and have small enough food.
found a few:
http://www.bugzuk.com/scorpionsandwhipscorpions.htm
there cheap but i dont know how good they are so you might have to ask some customers.
your not specifying what species exactly you want so you might like Heterometrus madraspatensis. they look like the other species but have yellow legs:
http://www.martingoss.co.uk/
he is a good seller i have bought from him before at a show and we talked for about half an hour about scorps lol! the people waiting to buy stuff behind me weren't all that happy lol!
or you could get a few swammerdami from him which are the largest scorp in the world (i think).
another: http://www.southcoastexotics.com/inverts.php
and another: http://www.virginiacheeseman.co.uk/scorpions-c-32.html?osCsid=cf820506d35de05770596cdbd769b8e9
thats all i can find for now.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:46 pm

Sorry what does 4i mean? I think I'm just going to stick to the 1 for now. I never thoguht about ordering over the internet isn't it cruel? Is it even legal? lol I'm after an asian forest scorpion I think as that is what I have based my set up as, i.e the type of substrate the bark etc. Heterometrus spinifer I think the name is? But I'd be happy with another type of species if things suit.

Also what does juveniele mean?


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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:47 pm

it means fourth moult

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:48 pm

Oh ok thanks, what does juveniele mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:49 pm

not adult:)
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:51 pm

Ok great thanks a lot would you recommenned the internet to buy from?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/2/2009, 5:56 pm

yes but not at present because of the strike id wait it out a few weeks i have some scorps ive got to wait for bummer:(


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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/3/2009, 3:03 am

DanDamage92 wrote:
what does juveniele mean?

Juvenile = baby/infant from 1i to about 3i
Sub-adult = A larger scorp that has not yet reached maturity 4i to 6i (i think, might be 7i with females)
Adult = Fully matured

You can tell with a lot of scorps by the colour of their telson;
white = juvenile
yellow/cream = sub-adult
brown/red = adult

However, some sp have say black telsons their whole lives.


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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/3/2009, 12:22 pm

Buying over the net isn't cruel or illegal; it's standard practice.

And Binky's rule of thumb only works for emperors and a couple species of Heterometrus.

By the way, 4I means "fourth instar," which isn't the same as fourth molt - it means it's molted three times in its life. They're born at 1I and after the first molt they're 2I, and so on and so forth.

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/3/2009, 1:57 pm

Ah right thanks guys, Ill look into buying online then as its all set up however I dont think its quite warm enough, the heat mat is on the side of the tank and on but the temperature is sitting about 70f I last looked does it matter which way around you put the heat mat on?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/8/2009, 3:07 pm

Its been about a week now and there is already problems I cant get the tank up to temperature and there is this white fluffy stuff grown around one on the bark pieces Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/8/2009, 3:22 pm

The white fluffy stuff is mold.
It won't harm your scorps. You can put a couple of woodlice/pillbugs in there to clean it up if you want.

What sort of heating are you using and how big is the tank?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/8/2009, 4:07 pm

Pick of the mold with tweezers / forceps where you spot it. Most bark gets a bit of mold but its easy to clean off.

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/11/2009, 12:12 pm

It does look like mold, but there is a lot of it, I think the piece of "bark" looks like a mushroom? Can I just get any woodlice? Its a 2 foot tank with heat mat, should I put the heat mat on the inside?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/11/2009, 2:01 pm

The bark looks like a mushroom? scratch Can we get any pictures?

Woodlice are fine . . . it's generally a good idea to breed them for a generation to reduce pesticides / parasites they may be carrying, but if you're in a hurry, they probably won't cause any problems (it's just a good precaution).

Heat mats go on the outside.

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/18/2009, 2:10 pm

I have not had any chance to do anything to the tank recently so the mold is still there I havn't got a cam atm but in the next week I am getting one for my birthday, so shall have a go then. The temp is no where near warm enough with the heatmat on the outside?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/19/2009, 12:51 am

If it's nowhere near warm enough, either get a better heatmat or use an alternative heat source (such as a light or heating the room).

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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/26/2009, 1:54 pm

Hey all, so im finally 17 can drive! XD also got my camera so here are a few pics see what you guys think!





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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   11/29/2009, 1:07 pm

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