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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/16/2009, 9:05 am

Anyone help!?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/16/2009, 9:35 am

Do you have any air flow in there that is a hell of a lot of mold lol
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/20/2009, 5:01 am

whoa, the heck is that Shocked

yeah, does that tank have any ventilation in it??
By the way, what is that item in the corner?
That is one serious case of mold!
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/20/2009, 3:29 pm

Its a piece of bark looking at it closely it looks like part of a mushroom, There is no air flow at the moment should there be? currently it is the tank set up with the fish tank lid with built in light. what should it be?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/20/2009, 5:30 pm

infrared bulbs are your friend
not just for heat, but because they cant see the red light.
and yeah, get rid of all that mold. you know, the white stuff ALL over that.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   12/21/2009, 3:53 am

yes, there should definitely be air flow in an setup that humid.

I would get rid of that piece of bark in the corner, seems like it would most likely grow mold again.
I would also clean the half bark hide and bake it as well, placing it in a drier area of the tank to prevent mold from growing on it again.

I use a wire-mesh top like this: http://www.discusdave.com/images/reef19.JPG

To retain humidity and heat I sometimes put aluminum foil over half the top of the lid on the side of the heat source.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/1/2010, 8:59 am

Hey guys I havnt been on for such a long time but I thought Id make an appearence basically, I went to local reptile shop to talk about a scorp and ended up with a bearded dragon, he his growing pretty rapid now however what happened to the scorp? well due to the tank having so much mold i put it outside and forgot about it over the winter...it cracked so that was it, however now I have just been given another tank =] so i was thinking about the scorp again deep down I always wanted one, or do I get a pacman frog upon a bit of research the frog is boring and loud at night so I'm thinking about setting up this new tank for an emp scorpion therefore new thread =] Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/1/2010, 2:03 pm

You should definitely make a new thread again, this one's super old.
But as a quick piece of info, emps aren't exactly fun either, they can be considered boring as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/1/2010, 5:14 pm

everyone seems to start with emps though?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/1/2010, 5:47 pm

DanDamage92 wrote:
everyone seems to start with emps though?

Yeh usually as they are probably the best "starter" scorpion - easy to care for, requires minimum essential attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/1/2010, 8:10 pm

Yeah, that's only because like Binksy said, they're pretty easy to take care of and don't require a lot of maintenance or attention at all. Another factor is that they are the most common and readily sold scorpion in pet stores. They receive the most publicity you can say and are widely sold.

If you want a beginner scorpion that is out more often and more active, I suggest getting a dry/desert species such as the Desert Hairy Scorpion, Hadrurus arizonensis.
I've owned a few and they LOVE to dig.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 4:56 am

Ah well as I went to reptile store I ended up buying bark and peat yesterday so what species may suit this? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 5:13 am

I have actually got some sand as I was going to use the tank for fish, I never got around to putting fish in it, just water, the sand is by unipac or something like that? I cant rememeber off by hand, I only used about a 1/3 of the bag would this be ok? although I do prefer the tropical ones? are there any tropical species which are more active?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 5:32 am

The bark can be used for drier species of scorpions. You can sprinkle a few of them on the substrate of humid setups for looks, too.
The peat is for humid enclosures. The peat will hold the humidity required for forest scorpions.
What will the sand be used for? It can only work with drier species of scorpions unless you mix a little of it with the peat you bought so your scorpion's burrows can hold a little better.

Yup, there are more tropical ones like Babycurus jacksoni. These guys can give you a good sting, though.
Another species that isn't so humid but is fun because it can be in a communal setup is C. vittatus. These guys breed pretty easily as well, but once again, their sting can pack a punch.

Something that can increase activity is by raising the temperature.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 6:04 am

well I thought about having a red heat bulb in there during the day and at night just the heat mat on the back? I do prefer the forest set up to be honest and would prefer a tropical scorp, With this bein g my first scorp I don't think one with a nasty sting is best? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 6:50 am

The other problem as well I'm afraid Dan, is that being in the UK, we cannot have any scorps such as Babycurus Jacksoni or c.vittatus. We aren't allowed to have any Buthidae sp without a DWA licence.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/2/2010, 6:51 am

I don't suggest buying two heating sources, the heat bulb should work just nicely. Just keep in mind that a red heat bulb will produce a good amount of red light, so it may be annoying.

Btw, what size is your tank again? From the pictures, it looks like a 60 or 75W bulb will do.
Yeah, I prefer forest scorpions too lol

They can be nasty, but if you're careful and respectful of the scorpion you should do fine.
Unfortunately emps aren't exactly active scorpions. Another forest species are asian forest scorpions, Heterometrus sp. These like to dig burrows too and don't come out often either.
A beginner scorp that is tropical, active and has mild venom is tricky.

You could try a communal setup, might give you more of a chance to see them.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/3/2010, 5:50 am

ah so we can just get emps really? As for a heat source how about a red bulb during the day and at night heat mat strapped to the back?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/3/2010, 11:32 am

DanDamage92 wrote:
ah so we can just get emps really?

We can have any species that we can get hold of, just not any in the Buthidae family.
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/4/2010, 5:12 am

What have you found are more active tropical species?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/4/2010, 8:23 am

My most active and most attractive scorpion is my Bothriurus CF Demayi
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/4/2010, 8:57 am

What is its not so scientific name?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/5/2010, 5:50 am

A lot of scorpions do not have common names or share them with other similar but different species of scorpion so they are all but useless.

According to scorpion files it has no common name, however it comes from Chile.

They are a bit low on stock at the moment but have a great selection of available scorps when the new shipments are in: http://www.thespidershop.co.uk/insect/index.php?cPath=50_35
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/5/2010, 12:54 pm

Any body else had eperience with forest scorps?
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PostSubject: Re: Set Up Time!   6/5/2010, 6:17 pm

You can try U. mordax
Luckily our moderator Mr. Mordax has extensive knowledge in this species, hence his name lol
I think they're pretty cool and the best part is they can be kept communally!
They're cheap in price, too.

well here is a site on the care and info, etc.
http://www.venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23700

Pic of the guys:

http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reitmajm/Arthropods%20and%20Other%20Creatures/Arachnids/Scorpions/Vaejovidae/Uroctonus%20mordax/Community/IMG_9847.JPG

Here's a vid from Mr. Mordax himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeF74mAMMc
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