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leiurusSaleen820
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PostSubject: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:08 pm

I got home today to find 1 of my L.Q's had given birth. I knew she was gravid but didn't think she was gonna pop
anytime soon. Well the problem is that I think something must have spooked her cause the majority of the brood is roaming around the enclosure. There are 9 still on her back which leads me to believe that she didn't refuse her brood.
I have only experienced this once before with A. australis but all the babies were off of her and dead when I returned home. All of the L.Q babies seem to be very lively but I know they are sure to die without the help of mom.
Is there anything I can do or are all of them pretty much goners ? Any ideas would be much appreciated.


Last edited by leiurusSaleen820 on 8/5/2011, 1:53 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : changed name of post)
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:11 pm

Try to gather them up and keep them on a slightly moist paper towel. I remember reading this on another forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:15 pm

Thanks Bro should I try to offer fruit flies or something
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:42 pm

No. I don't think they need it. They should have some sort of embryo yolk sack or something that feeds them.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:42 pm

Mom is standing over the brood and it looks like a few more have climbed back up on her hopefully the rest will to. They all seem to be lively moving around alot.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:44 pm


[hopscotch] so the ones that don't make it back on her are goners.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:52 pm

Maybe. What I meant to say is that each individual scorpion should have it's own sack. They are born with their individual yolk attached. You main concern is dehydration. Keeping them on a moist paper towel should help them through that.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:53 pm

I should also say that I have no personal experience with this, and that I am dredging this information up from the depths of my brain.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:57 pm

Thanks Street when mom moves from them I'll cage the rest and try the moist paper towel but now I'm gonna leave them alone don't want mom getting stressed.
New count 15 are back on the mom.
Hopefully the rest follow them up a few more are trying from the looks of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 10:58 pm

I found the thread for you bro. CLICK
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 11:20 pm

Thanks Street
That was very helpful but now there appear to be about 20 back on mom and about 15 or so under her so hopefully all will work out. Whatever ones that don't make it back on mom I'll try what that guy telow said.
Thank You again Street
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/2/2011, 11:22 pm

Absolutely. I'm glad to help when I can!
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/3/2011, 12:53 am

Looking good now.
All but 11 have gone back onto mom.
Maybe tomorrow the rest will be back on her too.(fingers crossed)
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/3/2011, 2:19 pm

Just checked and now there is only 7 left off of mom but she is still standing over them so I can't get them. They don't seem to be moving so it looks pretty grim for them, but a loss of 7 out of a brood of 30+ isn't so bad I guess.
Thank you again for the help Street
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/3/2011, 2:51 pm

If you have this happening then dont panic, if the mothers allows babies on her back, she will allow the drop outs to climb back on too. And they will when they get scared or dried up.

Would do the moist paper trick if the mother is not allowing the babies to climb her or she is eating them.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/4/2011, 10:29 am

Have faith bro.
Mr XxAwesomexX had a recent P.trans brood with all abandoned kids on the substrate..
In the end, it all works out with very little losses..
Hope it works out the same for you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/4/2011, 12:32 pm


Thanks GS Bro

All but 6 are back on mom the others I scooped up this morning with only 1 casualty.
I only had this happen once before and that ended really bad so I kinda panicked but all seems to be going well now.
Thank You All for your help and concerns
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/5/2011, 12:56 am

We got your back Leiurus!
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/5/2011, 1:37 am


Much appreciated Bro

Street if all goes well, like I said before I can send some your way if your still interested when the time comes just let me know. I'm gonna have to part with a few my other 3 ladies are gravid too. Twisted Evil
When they pop things should get really interesting. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/5/2011, 10:14 am

Nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/5/2011, 2:27 pm

Figured I would post a pic so you can all see why I panicked
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/5/2011, 4:51 pm

Indeed. Looks messy.
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/7/2011, 12:29 am

Alright this really sucks I just checked in to see if they are all alright and the same thing as before all were off wandering around. I scooped them all up and they seem to be lively and healthy but WTF this is just frustrating.
Street thank you for that link Bro cause I'd be F ing clueless what to do if not for that.
Hopefully all goes well cause this is my first L.Q brood this year and already off to a bad start. Bang Head
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/7/2011, 12:01 pm

They are still first instar?
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PostSubject: Re: Big L.Q Problem    Big L.Q Problem  Empty8/7/2011, 4:13 pm

They're still 1i but are walking around with their tails up in defense mode but starting to get some yellow color. All seem to be healthy they run around the deli cup very fast. Unfortunately I only found 17, so mom had to have eaten the others. Mad
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