2 scorps to id

hey scorpion people
can you guys try and id these 2 please?


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cheers guys and girls

anybody O:

This is a shot in the dark, but it may be Caraboctonus or most likely Bothriurus. I could be wrong, however, as I'm not an expert on Bothriuridae. I hope this helps.

thanks envyizm
it does look a bit like Bothriurus!!

Second pic at a guess and a quick internet search Neochactas delicatus http://invertimports.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=117 .

Where did you see them both?

this is a scorpion, from invert imports that has been identified as a separate, unknown species
i like both of them, jake won't sell them until he gets a positive id

i don't think it's the same as that though, since it's a different thing on his list

Ahhh right. Well it can't be Neochactas then, although they do look extremely similar. I really like the first scorpion. I've not spotted them on his website. Where abouts do they both originate from??

i'll check back with you mate
the first one is gorgeous, looks a bit like a burowing scorpion :L
i do however, like the chocolate colour of 2
P.s glad your Euscorp popped !

Yer finally lol. The babies started shedding and leaving mums back yesterday. Tis all very exciting although I haven't a clue what I am going to do with them yet in terms of housing and feeding them lol.
I think I'm placing an order with Jake tomorrow for an Opistophthalmus lamorali. Although I very much likey the scorpion in the top pic lol.

very nice mate
please keep me in mind, if you plan on selling any, mum got rid of her car, so i can't get to sheppey
i'm putting in an order for a few tarantulas, and a B. keyserlingi or sp chile beauty (what one is nicer)?

Yer if you want some course I'll send you a couple. I'm gonna grow them on a little before I think about posting though. Providing I have success at raising them lol.
I'd go for the sp. Chile beauty. It has really nice colouration plus I've never seen one for sale before.

rightee ho.. chile beauty it is :d
i've got a list, and i might be going to kempton park, probably see a B. keyserlingi there :L

and danke schon !!

Good luck with the euscorps they are hard to get past 3rd molt so myself and another person have unfortunately found we only have 3 left of ours out of 15

No worries tom. Unfortunately I don't think I'm gonna make Kempton.

Cheers bex. Do you have any tips or info on how to raise them?

i might not, i need to beg for a lift lol

Only that I think I made the mistake of removing them from mum I think as they're so small they are incredibly hard to feed and climatize and maybe she helps, I believe this is part of the reason the stay on mum as well as for protection prof tim Benton has written many papers on these and he thinks mum has a lot to do with them making it through the first molt by somehow keeping them In the correct t condition, he took a lot from the wall and set up a wall in a lab and did some interesting studies it's an interesting read if you look him up

Thanks bexs. So do you recommend keeping them with their mother beyond their first moult? Do you have any links to any of his stuff by the way. It sounds really interesting but googles failing me lol.

It was hard to find I saved the papers as pdfs so I you want to pm me your email I'll send them to you??

I've persevered and found a paper on reproduction and parental care. Am halfway through it at the mo. It's very interesting and makes me think that is the kind of thing I need to be doing in my life lol.

Lol I think that the one, her ether made a wall of ply and covered with sand paper an made cracks? Then took babies of females and split broods in half to see how they coped in different conditions? I could have a look tomorrow and get liknks to them all but took a while to search through the list to find his papers lol

Yer thats the one i found. Man it would be awesome to build a huge viv with a fake wall in it to house your scorps in lol.

Might actually attempt that when I win the lottery like take down a dividing wall bit Elliot they do when they do the fish tanks in Walls lol be awesome

Elliot?? Yer that would be awesome. I might have to start buying lottery tickets though lol.

Damn auto correct a bit like they do lol

Right,

I thought I would post the little info I know about them

( Thanks for taking the time to try and ID them, and thanks Tom, for starting the thread )

they are both being sold as Broteochactas sp. by my supplier, with a note stating that genus isn't 100%.

one is Broteochactas sp "pale leg", and the other Broteochactas sp "dark leg"

They are pictures of the adults so shouldn't change in colouration much ( if any )

the both originate from Guyana

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Hopefully that's some help to someone. ( Scorps aren't my thing really )

Jake