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Tanzanian Long Claw
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PostSubject: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 4:55 pm

Brand new to this so need advice, sorry if it's a bit of a stoopid question!!

On Monday I picked up my first scorpion a tiny Tanzanian Long Claw (lomachus politus), he (or maybe she) seems to be settling into his new pad quite well and have taken a few fruit flies and we generally seems to be getting on.

However, a closer look at him under a magnifying glass and a quick look on the forum shows him to have a few bad mites, tiny little things that aren't moving and sitting in the joins of his legs and also he has one near his eye and a few on his body, a few on the joint to the tail. On the lid of the box where he was kept and came home in there were loads of the little sods in the drops of condensation so assume that these blighters are attracted to water.

A few of the methods on here are obviously not practical when the little dude is about 1.5cm long - wet cotton wool sticks or vaseline and I didn't want to go down the route of keeping him dry with a water bowl so the bugs go into the water and drown(?) as with him being so young don't want to hurt him.

The only thing I can think of is predator mites but where to get them, the local reptile place says to look on the net but can anyone suggest a place to go? The friend I got him from has said that he occasionally gets dust mites but changes the tank and all's well and I do trust him as my long claws mum is beautifully kept on his T is amazing!

Also I can order some micro crickets so he can move up from the fruit flies but is there anything else I might feed him on?
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the lycan mikey
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 5:08 pm

i dont know anything about the mites, but you can readily feed that scorpion, for its size, pinhead crickets...
i have 2 C. Hentzi (florida bark scorpion, i dont know where you live) and they both eat 1 cricket every 10 days, and mine are only about 1 inch or less...
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Tanzanian Long Claw
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 5:22 pm

I'm in the UK!
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the lycan mikey
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 6:16 pm

lol than id wait for LycanLord or Binkysboy, or anyone else from that area to give you advice
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 6:34 pm

you sure they're the bad ones? sorry i'm sure you've checked, but i've had the detritivore ones hitching rides like that too...they hang about in dormant mode, then when some food is available (like a dead cricket) they swarm off the scorp and onto the food...
however they can i think be somewhat annoying to the "host"...but maybe leaving a dead cricket in with the scorpling might help reduce numbers...it might help you figure out what the mites are as well, just in case they're not the bad kind.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 6:49 pm

hmmmm I'm sure they're irritating him as he doesn't seem to sleep. The others in the 'litter' were sleeping under their stones upside down as they're supposed to but he doesn't he's out most of the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/24/2010, 7:01 pm

it's possible they're irritating him, yes...well the dead cricket thing may work, though you gotta watch it for mould.

another tactic that often works is using woodlice, just ordinary garden ones. i've used them with loads of my critters, and they cut down on mites (by competition and also by eating their eggs), cut down on mould, and also eat the remains of prey.
just let quarantine them for 2 weeks first to let them get any chemicals from outside out of their systems.
they don't appear to bother any of my animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/25/2010, 3:42 am

When I mine had mites I used most of the methods on everal different scorps as they were in a communal tank. They were also about the same size as yours because they were 4th instar emperors.

After a little while I managed to get rid of them all through submerging, vaseline on cottonbuds etc. For the last two scorps I had to resort to breeding my own predatory mites.

I had to try this on three occasions before I got some. I had a tiny tiny glass vivarium of which did not have any scorpions in. I left two dead crickets in there purposefully so that they wopuld decay and attract mites.

Every time mold began to grow, but on the third attempt, I had several of the predatory mites covering the cricket carcases. They are orange-reddish in colour, tear drop shaped, and are much larger than the "bad" mites and will move around.

I gathered as many as I could off the crickets and put them into the polystyrene deli cup that the scorp was moved into to separate it from the rest until it was clean again. The next day, the predatory mites were on the scorpion running around, but I could see them clearly devouring the "bad" mites.

Another day passed and only a couple "bad" mites could be seen.

Eventually, only predatory mites were left which then disappeared and supposedly died (as a result of having nothing to feed on) which then left me with a very clean now happy scorp, that could be re-introduced to its siblings in the communal tank.

I used this technique successfully on two 4 instar emperors, however, it took 3 or four goes at getting the mites before I actually got them. Also each time, I left the crickets in there for two to three days, checking daily.

The majority of the time, there was only mold, but the times when I had the mites, there wasn't as much mold but would have plenty of mites.

So perhaps, you could give that a go - It worked for me! Very Happy

Why buy some, when you can breed your own for free.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites   Baby Scorp With 'Bad' Mites Empty3/25/2010, 1:43 pm

i find the mealworm beatles do the trick i have had the same problem on my forest species but keep a beetle in there and they keep the tubs/tanks clean the scorpions never eat the beatles just the worms if u want then send me your address via pm and i will happily send you some of the beatles free of charge
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