| My First B. Jacksoni Molt! | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/15/2009, 5:41 am | |
| I just went in to feed the b. jacksoni their first taste of roaches which looked like this And when I opened the last container to feed my fatty chocolate I saw the tiny exo stuck on the underside of the bark and a much larger version happily snuggled in the coco fiber at the base. Here is the exoskeleton Here is my first ever newly 4 instar molted scorpion!!! So exciting to see this finally happen. This chocolate and one other are 2 weeks older than the others. I'll have to see how soon the other chocolate molts and if the others follow in 2 or so weeks. The dealer said they have all molted twice, so this is the third molt making it 4i now. Thanks to this forum and all the great info, I knew that higher temps and humidity was the best way to get them growing...and how to house these guys to ensure a safe molt. Temps are 85F to 90F (30C to 33C). I don't know what the humidity is exactly because I have a stick on strip hygrometer that doesn't work...the containers have visible condensation on the sides and lid. The containers are round tupperware bowls that are about 4 inches across and 3 inches high. I have about a half inch of coco fiber with a strip of cork tile set against the side at a 45 degree angle. I keep the half under the cork damp and the other half of the substrate dry.There is also a small flat stone that holds the cork in place and makes a horizontal scrape if needed. There are a lot of holes for good ventilation...I did tape up the holes around the bottom half after the first day I had 3 escapees...these guys can wiggle through very small holes! The scorpling molted hanging on the inside of the cork facing up instead of down like I read here. Maybe he's just a rebel. I say he because I can now see bulbs on the chelea. Thanks again guys for all the great info! | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/15/2009, 1:35 pm | |
| Congratulations. By the way, in my experience with this species you can't confirm male until fifth instar. | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/15/2009, 5:03 pm | |
| Good to know. "It" definitely isn't 5i...the chelae does have more of a male-like bulb than before. I'm keeping a record of their progress, so I'll let you know what I see as the others molt and if this one changes...this is so much more fun than just having a mature scorpion! I wish my camera was better, so I could get you a close-up. It is now about 1.5 inches. If it is at 4i and has one more molt I don't see it making 3 inches. I did read that the range is 2.4 to 3.6 inches. It is just exciting to see what they become. Should I let the container dry out after a molt or keep the humidity high? It is still snuggled in the moist substrate and the other side is dry, so there is a choice. Just wondering if I should let the condensation on the sides dry to help harden the exoskeleton. Can I safely feed 3 days after a molt? | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/16/2009, 2:48 am | |
| My experience (through post-molt mortalities) suggests that the exoskeleton hardening isn't through drying -- think about the REALLY humid species. As far as post-molt feeding, if it fluoresces under UV as brightly as the old exo, it should be good to go. | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/16/2009, 3:59 am | |
| Good point. Do you think it is a chemical/enzyme reaction that hardens the exoskeleton? I tried a feeding and there was no interest, but he was running around quite a bit and I got a better shot next to the old skin...crazy how much size difference | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/16/2009, 4:22 am | |
| That picture's not very good, but it still looks soft. Wait until it fluoresces fully before trying again.
And I think the scleritolization process is metabolic; I had one specimen die immediately following a molt and it never hardened. | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/16/2009, 4:25 am | |
| I so need to get a torch...I'll grab the one form work again tomorrow. | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 2:50 am | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 3:00 am | |
| The glow is a good indicator to see if little ones are getting fat -- whether you can see little gaps of non-glowing membrane or not. | |
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AshMashMash Babycurus
Number of posts : 294 Age : 36 Location : London Baby Registration date : 2009-01-14
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 4:26 am | |
| Awesome UV pics there. Congrats OP | |
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scorpling~ Centruroides
Number of posts : 162 Age : 43 Location : Malaysia Registration date : 2008-12-19
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 4:27 am | |
| - Bayss wrote:
- crazy how much size difference
my h. spinny went double its size after 2nd molt.. faaaattttt bugger! | |
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bjaeger Leiurus
Number of posts : 2282 Age : 36 Location : Pennsylvania, US Registration date : 2008-04-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 11:42 am | |
| Ah, yes -- the first B. jacksoni molt! I remember the feeling I got when mine molted, although they were my first scorps that weren't emps (probably why I was so excited). The temps seem to be a bit high for these species -- correct me if I'm wrong. I kept them around 75-80F. When they're about to molt, I would up the temps by a few degrees and increase the humidity a bit. All of this was when they were housed individually, of course. I miss when they were housed by themselves. I actually got to see them eat and everything. Now I don't get to see them unless I lift up their hides. | |
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Bayss Tityus
Number of posts : 623 Age : 55 Location : Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A. Registration date : 2008-12-29
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 11:26 pm | |
| Yes...I'm intentionally keeping them on the hot end to speed up their development. I think it is called hot boxing...Eddy has a tutorial on it in the forum and I read some other stuff online. You are right though, B. Jacksoni are best kept at 75-80F and that is what the communal tank will be. I have them in individual containers with high temps and high humidity. That is why I was so excited to see it worked on the molt! I haven't checked tonight yet, but I'll bet another one has molted. Wish me luck! | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 36 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: My First B. Jacksoni Molt! 2/17/2009, 11:40 pm | |
| Moved to scorps in general | |
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