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PostSubject: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:26 pm

hi hi !
Even though my scorpie has just given birth , i didn't know my scorpion's id. lol.
Hope you guys will help to advise me..

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:41 pm

Ok, nice to meet you. Smile






GET THAT SCORP OF THE SAND AND INTO A NICE, WARM, HUMID, TANK!

this is some kind of Heterometrus species, these require warm, humid conditions to thrive!


and the worst part is that it's got scorplings! i'm sorry, but unless the humidity is bumped right up, these scorps probably won't make it through their first moult.

this is one hell pf a dilemma. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:44 pm

Biggest advice: get it OFF of the sand ASAP and onto coconut fiber or peat -- you have some sort of forest scorpion (telson shape makes me think Heterometrus sp.), and they require high humidity and something they can burrow into.

Moving her may stress her to the point where she eats some (or all) of her scorplings, or some could fall off, but leaving them in that dry of an environment WILL kill them.

Best of luck, and welcome aboard.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:44 pm

It looks like she's still birthing in that photo . . .

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:49 pm

This is what I meant by dilemma, lol.


check out mike's caresheet for heterometrus spp : https://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/caresheets-f29/pandinus-imperator-and-most-heterometrus-spp-tropical-forest-scorpions-t38.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 2:55 pm

looks like H. longimanus. its female (for obvious reasons). and you are going to have trouble doing this! the easiest way i can think of is take out all the decour and put in a cricket box or a jar so that it will hide in that and then you can put the lid on and move it gently so that it is either asleep or calm. then change the substrate to cocofibre as quickly as possible and gently put the scorp back in. dont tip it out just let it crawl out itself... less stress...
they should be off their mothers back soon and you will probably want to remove them. you have two options from here:
1. pu them into individual containers, this will eliminate cannibalisum but wont be to visually appealing but will save time and strees with finding them.
2. put them all in a tank together, they will look good but you will never see many of them again unless you dig them out and you wont know which ones are dead and which are not.
i can see 12 scorplings in your picture but there may be more. if you are going for option 1 then count how many scorps you have first.
if option 2 then put in a lot of hides so they dont have to share. but they will probably burrow...




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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 3:09 pm

HUH !

so i'm NOT at all on the right track??
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i'll do something! Now...
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 3:20 pm

I'm not sure if this would be a good idea or not, as I've never had scorplings (or even this problem for the matter), but you could try dumping some pre-moistened peat/coco fiber in the parts where she isn't at. If you do decide to do that, try and do it in a way that won't stress her out too much. Also, you want something covering the majority of the top to hold in the humidity, like a sheet of glass or something.

If anyone opposes this idea, just let it be known.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 3:20 pm

it's allright, we all make mistakes.


anyway, when you go to move her or whatnot, try to make it as stressless as possible, and try to do it quickly. once you have her in her new tank, the best thing to do is totally forget you have her, for a while.... I.E don't disturb her.

here is a good pic of a typical setup ~this one is a communal setup but the same rules apply~

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note the moist substrate, which will dramatically boost the humidity, and the hides.

for substate you can use peat moss, (I use this for tanks that require high humidity)
coco fibre
Etc. anything soil-like that holds moisture well. ~don't use anything from the wild I.e soil from your back yard, Etc.~

if you catch her eating a scorpling, don't panic, alot of scorps seem to munch on 1 or 2 of thier young after birth.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 6:20 pm

Well you have been helped so far, so I shall just say welcome to the forum Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 7:30 pm

yay welcome Smile

I think the idea of gradually placing peat / forest bed into the enclosure is a good idea and hopefully wont stress mum out too much.

My first thoughts were H. longimanus as well.

Anyway congrats on the new additions and fingers crossed they thrive Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/23/2008, 7:39 pm

And don't think where accusing you of anything, lots of us kept scorpions wrong when we first got them.
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yeah making mistakes is one of the best ways to learn
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/24/2008, 12:36 am

yah i had my P.Imps on calcium sand and then reptile wood chips Embarassed

Then i met eddy on another forum and he told me the right way and told me to come here
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/24/2008, 3:32 am

Venom wrote:
And don't think where accusing you of anything, lots of us kept scorpions wrong when we first got them.

Yup. I had my first emp on wood chips because that's what the pet store had her on ... She's alive, healthy, and happy today, though! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/24/2008, 4:13 am

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the birth!
I hope you manage to move her sucessfully with as little stress as possible.
You could also just introduce the coco fibre into the tank...remove the sand and add some fibre etc

Nice and humid is what your girl and her young need

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/24/2008, 10:46 am

I think that idea of gradually adding coco fiber to the areas that she's not in, and then filling in the rest when she moves around, is the best idea I've heard so far.

When the babies come off her back in a week or two the entire tank could be redone.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/25/2008, 1:28 am

Have moved her...

Thanks for all your advises!
Really appreciate that !
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/25/2008, 1:58 am

Excellent! Are the babies still on her back??
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/25/2008, 9:40 am

Yupp ! Haha..

She munched one of the babies though.
I'm abit traumatized by it.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/25/2008, 11:18 am

yeah unfortunately that happens, maybe the mother sensed something was wrong with that one, survival of the fittest and all that lol
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here ! ^^   Newbie here ! ^^ Empty11/25/2008, 12:25 pm

all add's up to a stronger gene pool for the species. Smile


scorp's always seem to munch one one, or a few, of thier newborns. Sad
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