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PostSubject: New Female   New Female Empty7/15/2008, 4:23 pm

Hi everyone,I just got a new female today (Nightshade).I did like everyone here says took out Midnight rearanged the tank mixed the coca fibers up(added some more too),got another hide.Theres 4 total in the tank now.

The Problem is she is extreamly aggressive with him.She started tryin to pinch and sting him right away when they first met.He still hasnt really gone after her.But he has started with the crazy twitches ever since they first met.She hasnt done any twitching at all.(is it something only males do?).

Anyway do you guys think they will start to be friendly with eachother over time,or am I going to have to seperate them??
How long should I give them togeather?
Should I split up the fights?
Im just worried I'll wake up with one of them hurt bad or worse....


I'll have some pics up in a little bit.Dont want to bother her with a photo session right now =o) lol
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/15/2008, 5:33 pm

If they are still alive NOW...try not to worry. if a battle to the death was going to happen they would have got into that fight by now.
Just hang a while and wait and see.

Sounds to me like he was trying to mate with him...give them a bit more time

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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/15/2008, 5:45 pm

*cough* typo there! mate with her...but it could also have been a "im a scorpion too" and a "im not food" signal xxx
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/15/2008, 5:47 pm

*Connie* wrote:


Sounds to me like he was trying to mate with her...give them a bit more time

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Yeah thats what I was thinking he was trying to do.


As for the battle to the death.It seems she might have been trying thats how aggressive she was being,but the male seemed much more defensive not attacking just trying to get her to stop.
Right now they are in thier own hides.Everything is nice and calm.Im ganna try and stay up tonight so I can watch them to see how they act to eachother.I really hope they get along eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 2:01 am

don't worry it happens every time I'm kinda new to the communal tank but i have 4 in one and they all had a fight like that. They even flipped a hide right over after a few hours they mellow out and soon you.ll look under the hide and find them sleeping on top of each other.

after the first initial fight the fighting usually is over and the best advice i got from hear was there no need to worry there immune to there own species venom
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 3:32 am

Ok Thanks,I been watchin most of the night Midnight the male has been out a few times.Nightshade (female) has been hideing out in a burrow ever since I gave her a cricket a while ago.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 4:56 am

I witnessed a couple small fights from my two female emperors that I house communally. They're both fine Smile

The other day my big emp was climbing on the fake plant and her tail was wiggling around, so the other one came out and started pinching it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 10:04 am

As everyone has said, things tend to calm down fairly quick. Just keep a close eye on them the next day or two.

As for the "crazy twitches," it's called juddering and only males do that. It could have been a courtship response.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 11:33 am

They seem to have "worked things out".When I woke up the male was in the front of the females hide sleeping with her in the back of it.

Thanks for the right term for the "crazy twitching" =o) Yeah I dont know much about it since it is the first time I've seen 2 scorps togeather but I really think it was a courtship response,but thats just a noobs take on it =o)

Anyway thanks for everyones input and help,you guys rock.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 1:00 pm

Here is a video of Midnight juddering just outside the hide my new female went into after the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2DRt7NYvw

sorry the quality isnt that great but you can get the idea
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 1:30 pm

I wouldnt say its only a male mating thing. My little scorplings would do it to each other when fighting over crickets
Glad things are now calm in the tank
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/16/2008, 3:25 pm

*Connie* wrote:
My little scorplings would do it to each other when fighting over crickets
lol that must look so cute watching lil scorplings do it.

*Connie* wrote:
Glad things are now calm in the tank
Yeah they are still in the same hide.I think everythings ganna be fine just like everyone said =o)
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 10:38 am

Hello Scorp forum's,this is just a little update on my male and female.I have some pics of their very last fight wich was two days ago.Since then the female has dug a huge burrow about 6 inches down and 7 or 8 inches back.My lazy male moved in and just sits at the entrance.Its pretty funny.

If any mods think the pics are inappropriate Im sorry...and I'll take them down.Just though that anyone new to keeping a communal might like to see what they could be in for on their scorps first couple meetings =o)

Fixed I hope =o) they're still kinda big.

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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 10:50 am

those are some very nice pics man.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 10:59 am

I don't see what's inappropriate about them, but it would be nice if you could scale down the links.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 11:05 am

I just remember reading in the rules about posting fighting vids.I didnt think this fell into that catagory just apologizing early incase it did =o)


Pics are fixed
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 3:23 pm

I don't think a little territorial scuffle counts as "fighting." Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/18/2008, 4:53 pm

lol Ok.

just another update.after the female got her drink in the last pic she went of into the big hide and dug the huge burrow I talked about.


The male went into one of the smaller hides and started to clean himself,putting his chela into his chelicerae.I was like omg dont eat yourself lol.I had no clue what was going on until I just sat and watched for a second.I think watching my scorp clean himself rates up there with watching them eat lol.

I have a little bit of video I took while I watched him.I'll get it on my youtube site soon.
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PostSubject: Re: New Female   New Female Empty7/19/2008, 3:19 am

nothing beats a 2I *still white* have a wash. that is the cutest thing I have EVER seen in my entire life!
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