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sp1int3r
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PostSubject: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/14/2013, 11:17 pm

So my female had babies a few months ago all the babies have molted at least 2 times I think maybe 1 or 2 are molting again? Or maybe those are just catching up to the rest, anyway they eat (same tank as the mother ) 4 crushed crickets almost every night. There is about 8 babies left the rest have been sold, also another side note the mothers female helper died a few days ago, so I may cut down on the feeding, anyway I saw one baby and its 1st leg was on top on the claw arm which looked like it was broken, I don't know if they can live without one of the claw arms? Will it heal with a molt? Will it die if the the claw arm gets ripped off? No idea how it happened because I the mother has gotten really aggressive since her friend died. So it's hard to truly look at the injured baby, I can try and post pictures but the best thing would be with a black light since they blend in with the substrate. Thanks guys really worried about this baby.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 1:06 am

Pictures would definatly help because after moolts their arms can look pretty wierd.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 1:37 am

I'm going to move this to the emergency section. (There's also a thread in that section that has a situation similar to yours.)

We'll need pictures to see exactly what's going on. Move it into an ICU in the meantime.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 12:47 pm

Yeah get us a picture if possible might need to be amputated. It might live a long life still but we need to see what you mean first.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 3:59 pm

here are some photos i took last night, i just tried to take more but the baby scurried into a burrow that all the babies dug out in the substrate. when he/she comes back out i will try and capture her/him again and take better pictures. Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it ?ui=2&ik=468b60fcc8&view=att&th=14083856946faf35&attid=0
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:00 pm

its the brown one not the fat black one and its the left claw arm
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:02 pm

The pictures are not showing...
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:10 pm

i can see them on my thread,strange.. hold on let me try again. let me know if they show.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:17 pm

That doesn't look good. It looks like it had a very bad molt.
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im trying to upload another picture but it keeps coming up as the first one
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:25 pm

do you think it will make it? i just found a whole molt in the tank but that could of came from another baby
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 4:34 pm

It may have molted and then attacked by another sibling. See what the more experienced people have to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/15/2013, 6:54 pm

Thanks , I hope he makes it
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/17/2013, 12:23 am

It looks like it had a bad molt.

The pedipalp is the least of your worries I'm sorry to say. The metasoma looks deformed, and if there's any serious internal damage your scorpion may actually be unable to defecate; and therefore might die. Only time will tell.

In my opinion the pedipalp should be amputated. It's currently inhibiting the scorpion's movement. Instructions for amputating can be found in this thread: http://www.scorpion-forum.com/t10415-stuck-in-molt

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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/17/2013, 12:32 am

+1. I noticed the tail was screwy too. It most likely won't be able to sting and poop.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/17/2013, 12:46 am

Thanks guys , I will check out the link in the morning, it's pretty late here. Lets hope for the best.
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Why would there be internal damage?
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sp1int3r wrote:
Thanks guys , I will check out the link in the morning, it's pretty late here. Lets hope for the best.
Unless of course you're a practiced insomniac like I am. Wink 


Hope (s)he pulls through.

sp1int3r wrote:
Why would there be internal damage?
The metasoma is all screwy and twisted to put it bluntly. It's possible some of the digestive system could be damaged.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty8/25/2013, 11:22 pm

i havent found a dead baby yet, but i havent dug up the burrow, so hopefully all is good with the injured one ( i hope) anyone here from NY/Tristate area who wants a free baby?
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty9/2/2013, 8:03 pm

I'm going to post better pictures, took a few good clear ones today
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PostSubject: Re: Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it   Baby emp claw dragging and leg twisted over it Empty9/3/2013, 12:58 pm

Okay...

What's the current status of the scorp? Any changes in behavior other than issues getting around due to the crippled limb? Eating normally?

Have you amputated?

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he/she is bigger now and doing fine it seems! im really glad. when I post the pictures maybe you can tell me if I need to see the forum about amputating the limb.
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