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Andrew Leigh
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PostSubject: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/1/2013, 5:24 pm

Hi guys!

Hoping someone can help me ID this little guy (..or gal?).

My company is doing some anti-rhino poaching drone flying in the Hluhluwe game reserve in South Africa, and they came back to our Johannesburg office with this little fella in one of the toolboxes.

I've put together a small temporary 'home' for him (/her). But, not sure how to configure it optimally, diet, etc...

I have 2 big emperors in my main tank, and had a bit of left over pete moss, which I used in the new 'enclosure' along with a couple different rocks/stones, a bit of wood, little plant, and some gravel / bark etc.

So far I've thrown in a little worm (earlier today, uneaten), and a tiny tiny fly yesterday, which seems to be gone today Wink

If anyone can assist in ID'ing the little dude, I'd be really appreciative!

About 4cm in length from pincers to tail if all stretched out.. Definitely looks like a baby to me, but I'm no expert!

Thanks in advance!!

Dirk

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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 1:30 pm

Can we have a closer pic, very difficult to see any definition.

Given the loacation and the picture I think it is a Psuedolychas pegleri, the telson appears to be diagnostic except for the colouring. The P. plegreli however tends to be more reddish from the pictures I have. The adult size is 45mm.

The other contender is the Uroplected olivaceus which is more of an olive grren / blackish colour. These grow to 60mm and the tail is granulated.

so your scorp has the body and telson of the P.p but more the colouring of the U.o.

Better picture will help.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 1:38 pm

I think it is the Uroplectes 90%.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 2:04 pm

Shadowfoot might be able to help, but looks to me like one of the Pseudo's or Uroplectes species
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 2:34 pm

I would say one of the Pseudolychas species because of the telson shape but a clearer photo could help.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 4:45 pm

Wow, thank you!! Appreciate the quick and detailed responses!

Took a few more shots, this time with my SLR, and a daylight lamp - perhaps the pics will give some better insight?

Any suggestions on habitat (/terrain) / diet, etc? Though once I know the species I am happy to do further research myself Wink

Just want to give the little one the best living environment he can get...

I'm gathering thus far he prefers spending time on rock surfaces, and on occasion curled under a rock, any way - far more than being on the pete moss. I assume then he'd originally have come from more of a desert sand type of terrain?

Thanks again, really really awesome to hear back from you guys Smile

See pics below!

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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/2/2013, 5:51 pm

Yip, that's a Pseudolychas species, probably P.pegleri by the looks of it. You can keep him on sand mixed with peat with 70% peat. You can also add a small water dish which should always be kept full and a weekly misting would be good. Temps anything in the mid 20's is fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/3/2013, 4:12 am

Thanks Shadowfoot !

Set him up with a bit of sand, he seems very happy Smile

Not sure what best to feed him, given his size... can't see him appreciating a cricket or meal worm like my emperors.. maybe small (very small) flies ?

In any case - really appreciate all the feedback!

Wish everyone a great week further.

Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/3/2013, 4:38 am

You can try chopping up a mealworm or offer him a cricket leg but best would be baby crickets.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/3/2013, 4:44 am

Awesome... I'll pick some up this week after work.
Where abouts are you based Shadowfoot? Nice scorp in your profile pic, what is it? Yours?

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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/3/2013, 4:50 am

I'm in the Western Cape. Thanks dude, that's my Parabuthus granulatus.
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty6/3/2013, 6:26 am

At that size trying to find small enough feeders can be a nightmare, but luckily I've got a lot of baby roaches (Touch Wood). Good luck with the little guy, the Pseud's are a interesting genus
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PostSubject: Re: Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa   Please help ID! Hluhluwe, near Durban, South Africa Empty3/25/2014, 12:45 am

just bought two just like that and have been trying to find out what spiecies they are
now i know. since i got mine home i fed them small to medium crickets
and they seem content with those. my question is
i was told they are called african flat bark scorppions
and im not sure if i can handle them i have emperors
and olive keeled flat rocks as well.
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I've had a better look at them now, those are 100% Pseudolychas ochraceus. Common name for them is Plain Pygmy Thick Tail. I would rather not handle them as their sting is quite painful.
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Now that's a scorpion you don't see everyday. (Unless you are from South Africa) Very Happy
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i figured they might have a strong sting but i just wanted to check
before i tried to handle them like i do my emperors and olive keeled flat rocks
but i think id rather watch them in there inclosure then risk a sting thanks for the info. they are really beutiful and thats a great photo of them.
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i figured they might have a strong sting but i just wanted to check
before i tried to handle them like i do my emperors and olive keeled flat rocks
but i think id rather watch them in there inclosure then risk a sting thanks for the info. they are really beutiful and thats a great photo of them.
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