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PostSubject: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 6:21 pm

Today a gut from Mexico was telling me of this scorpion they have native there known as a Durango about 4 inches long and a reddish color. I'm not sure where about in Mexico this scorpion is regain at. All i know is he said he as some friends coming up and he'll see about them bringing me a few if i am willing to help him to set up his saltwater tank since he kno0ws nothing about saltwater setups.

Have anyone ever heard of this scorpion before and may know what specie is.


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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 6:25 pm

MARK!!!!!! THATS MY DREAM SCORP. me and venom have been planning a trip to Durango just to catch these. There most likely C. suffusus. the Durango scorpion but there are so many species. I have tons of them preserved. Okay pm sent.


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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 6:33 pm

i had a feeling that it may be a centruroides of some sort
i hope this guy is for real of having them being sent up with his friends for me.
Hell, he was`even talking of tarantulas too.

Wow, Eddy, isn't that ironic of you being from there and being ya dream scorpion
if that guy is serious of this i will let ya know
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 6:37 pm

eddy could you change "how to have"
in the title if this thread
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 6:46 pm

did you change it already? I don't know what your talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 7:03 pm

http://www.redtox.org/RT2/servlet/CtrlInteriorSec?clv=10381&tipo=s
it's in spanish, heads up for those of you who don't understand spanish
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 7:10 pm

~Abyss~ wrote:
did you change it already? I don't know what your talking about.
-Eddy

already fixed it bro
done that after i ask ya to do it for me, then i found it lol
must had a crackhead moment lol tongue
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 7:14 pm

Rasputin wrote:
http://www.redtox.org/RT2/servlet/CtrlInteriorSec?clv=10381&tipo=s
it's in spanish, heads up for those of you who don't understand spanish
WTH i've spent a great deal of time looking for something like this. Thanks a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 7:35 pm

~Abyss~ wrote:
Rasputin wrote:
http://www.redtox.org/RT2/servlet/CtrlInteriorSec?clv=10381&tipo=s
it's in spanish, heads up for those of you who don't understand spanish
WTH i've spent a great deal of time looking for something like this. Thanks a lot.

there are a few pubs but they're all in spanish. gotta know what you're looking for, if it's from mexico your best bet it looking for pubs in spanish - there's a branch of revsys in mexico btw
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 7:43 pm

I got a paper written in Spanish about these but never seen a caresheet like that for them. although its not really a caresheet.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 8:14 pm

Thank you Rasputin
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 8:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 9:06 pm

wish i could read spanish
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 9:12 pm

If I have time today I'll translate it. Translators for these things just give you gibirish I imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 9:13 pm

redknee wrote:
wish i could read spanish

I'll lead the charge and do the write up in english
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 9:15 pm

Oh okay that works i suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 9:25 pm

thanks for doing this bro
i am itching to read that paper
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 10:20 pm

Systematics

Family: Buthidae C.L. Koch, 1837.
Genus: Centruroides Marx, 1889.
Group: Rayado Hoffmann, 1932.
Subgroup: suffusus- infamatus Gonzlez-Santilln, 2001.

Morphology

A scorpion of medium size reaching 2" to 3" in length. The coloring of the body is yellow although from time to time can be a reddish-brown. Just like the C. vittatus, this scorpion has 2 longitudinal bands of dark pigmentation as well as 3 longitudinal lines of lighter pigmentation that often take on the same orange bands as C. vittatus. The best form of differentiating C. suffusus is where C. vittatus has the ocular triangle, C. suffusus has more of a bandits mask that is wide and spreads longitudinally across the cephalothorax (fig. 2).

As with most species of the Centruroides genus sexual identification is as simple as looking at the tail; in the males the tail is long and slender and the females have a shorter wider tail (fig. 1). The males have 20 to 24 pectines, while the females have from 21 to 26. The number of pectines varies, but is common to these numbers.

The subaculear tooth near the base of the telson is short and underdeveloped.

Fig. 1 - R-male L-female

Fig. 2


Mating and Reproduction

Little it is known on the reproductive biology of this species, due to the lack of studies. Common to other Centruroides species, partruition is often observed during rains in the wild.

Life Cycle

This species is not very well documented so not much is known about it's life cycle. Generically speaking, this species is treated as any other Centruroides and the consensus is 5-7 instars to maturity with males and females commonly reaching sexual maturity at different instars. They are thought to live from 2 to 9 years.

Habitat

C. suffusus is an abundant and very common species in the Durango and Nayarit areas. As with most Centruroides, this species can be found everywhere where it can seek refuge (fig. 3). This species is a level 4 on the hobby toxin scale due to the large amount of cases of scorpionism - it is considered to be one of the more toxic in the country.

Fig. 3


Distribution

Its area of distribution extends in states of Sinaloa, Nayarit and Durango. Fig. 4 is a map of the distribution of this species.

Fig 4




this sheet has been translated and edited from it's original text found HERE by Rasputin Sane
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 11:11 pm

Thanks for the translation. I actually did have time but since you volunteered I decided to beat three record in the arcade section on InsectGeeks.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 11:12 pm

I need to regain my title as the bejeweled champ
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/15/2008, 11:21 pm

some of these records are incredible. Did you play the flysushi one? Thats hard.
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/16/2008, 7:51 pm

thanks Ras for the translation
this paper , caresheet or whatever you nay call it was well in describing this scorpions in everyway, thanks again, you rock
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PostSubject: Re: has anyone ever heard of...   4/16/2008, 7:56 pm

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