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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 6:26 am

wow.. 25 degrees.
i don't think these ones would do as well at those temps.. they have been adapting to it for 150 years, how many generations is that? i'm trying to figure that one out, but they must have acclimatised to our climate.
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 6:57 am

Hmm you could be right. It is 31 degrees here now though Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 7:33 am

ours survive below 0° temps through some bad parts of winter! i found a write up that says this...

30°C (86°F) at daytime and around 22°C (68°F) at night in the summer and around 15/13°C (59/55.5°F) in winter, but in nature they live at higher and lower temperatures, even below 0° (32°F).

we just keep ours at room temp not heating need just leave them to it lol Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 7:54 am

Family: Euscorpiidae
Subgenus: Tetratrichobothrius
Species: Euscorpius flavicaudis
Common name: European yellow tailed scorpion
Distribution: West of Europe (Italy, France, Spain), North Africa (Algeria, Tunisia). Introduced in Great Britain (South South-East of England) and South America (Uruguay)
Habitat: Temperate zones in humid areas
Venom: Not considered medical important. It is Harmless for healthy humans


General

Euscorpius flavicaudis is one of the largest members of the genus, and it can reach lengths of 3.3/4.5 cm (1.3/1.7 inch).
This species is a small/medium-small scorpion, with a blackish/black-brownish body and with a yellow/yellowish-beige telson and legs. The chela manus can be brown/reddish. The Patella of pedipalp has an internal tubercle.
It is a typical harmless scorpion with large and strong pedipalps, a stout body and a thin "tail" (metasoma).
This scorpion is found most of all in tyrrhenian regions, in humid areas as forests, fields, woodshed, under stones and can also be found in old houses, in cracks and crevices in walls and ruins etc.



How to differentiate the E. flavicaudis from others Euscorpius spp

To start getting a valid ID of these scorpions, you look at the telson and leg colour. If the telson and legs are darkish/brownish, it is likely to be E. Italicus. If they are bright or yellowish, then you look at body's colour. If it is reddish/brown , it is likely to be "E. carpathicus complex" (E. tergestinus, E. sicanus etc.). If it is blackish/brown dark with yellowish/beige legs and telson, it is likely Euscorpius flavicaudis.
But the most accurate method to determine the species is looking at the trichobothria ventrally on the chela manus and/or the trichobothria ventrally on the patella:
Euscorpius flavicaudis usually has 5 (sometimes 6) trichobothria ventrally on the chela manus just before the movable fingers, and it usually has 13 (sometimes 10/13) trichobotria ventrally on the patella.
Euscorpius italicus has at least 7 trichobothria ventrally on the chela manus just before the movable fingers.
"ex Euscorpius carpathicus complex" has 4 trichobothria ventrally on the chela manus just before the movable fingers.
To differentiate E. flavicaudis from subgenus Alpiscorpius, you look at the telson and leg colour, at the size (Alpiscorpius doesn’t overstep 3.8 cm (1.5 inches)) and above all the areas of discovery.

Sexing

To distinguish the sex the following factors can be taken into consideration:
The line of the body; the male is more slender than female.
The size of pedipalpi; the male has larger claws and strong and aven have most pronounced teeth on the chela manus.
The size of the telson; it's larger in males.
The length of the pectines; the male has longer pectines, with a larger number of teeth than the female. The male has from 9 to 11 teeth that overstep the first strnite, whilst the female has 7-9.

Childbirth


Gestation period should be 10/14 months, according to the quantity of food available and the climate.
The mother-to-be will look for a hidden and humid place to give birth directly to the living scorpling, from a few to about thirty scorplings white, soft and swollen.
The mother will be placed raised forelegs, to facilitate the release of children, then they will climb on the back of their mother, where they will remain until the first molt (approximately six days).
After that, the scorplings will start to wander in the surrounding areas but remaining around the hole all together for a few days. The scorplings should be separeted to avoid cannibalism.
The young scorpions will reach the adulthood after one or two years from birth, In this time it may happen from time to time that we see the scorpion "swollen" and it stops eating. It hides itself for a lot of time, probably the next time it shows itself it will be more larger.
The moment of molt (ecdysis) and of the post-molt are the most delicate and dangerous, because they are helpless, unable to defend themselves and the exoskeleton isn't still hard.

Keeping in captivity

The Euscorpius flavicaudis are solitary, they aren't communal scorpions.
The only contact with others Euscorpius flavicaudis (besides from attacking them) they are for the opposite sex only for the time required for mating. there are known acts of cannibalism.
As all Euscorpius sp , this is an easy scorpion to keep, It is suitable for a beginner.
The container should be 15x20 cm (6x8 inch) for one scorpion, 25x25 cm (10x10 inch) for two scorpions. Give them a layer of peat at least about 5 cm (2 inch). (you can use a peat sand mix)
These scorpions can live in temperatures around 30°C (86°F) at daytime and around 22°C (68°F) at night in the summer and around 15/13°C (59/55.5°F) in winter, but in nature they live at higher and lower temperatures, even below 0° (32°F).
The humidity should be around 70/85%. Provide high ventilation to prevent mildews.
Like all scorpions, the Euscorpius flavicaudis accept crickets, mealworms, cockroaches and also Oniscidea and others Aracnidae etc.
Give them food once per week and remove the prey if they not eaten after 2/3 days. also remove left-overs, this helps reduce the chance of attracting mites.
The Euscorpius scorpions are timid and feel easily annoyed, especially when they eat, and they could leave the prey .
These scorpions do use their sting enough to capture prey, specially if the prey is strong.

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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 1:52 pm

nice bex.. again, does this apply to native specimins?
the sheppey ones are quite communal apart from when you have a gravid fmale
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/4/2011, 2:15 pm

Well I'm not so sure now lol but yeah I would say this applies more to the foreign species I know ours live in the same wall but they have a lot of room to escape each other in said wall, so I suppose as long as yr communal setup has enough space and hides they should be fine!

I plan to keep all our babies together in one tank so will see what happens i guess lol Smile
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yeah. one would think that the siblings should get on far better than any other scorpion.
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well lets hope so a lol they have all scurried off to there own hiding places atm need to leave them a few days to harden up then will feed them Smile this is my first lot of babies so really worried lol Smile
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they are quite cool, they are the most sctive out of all of ours by far too Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/12/2011, 11:09 am

nice pics bex.. good macro.
when did your Euscorp collection become 21?
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/12/2011, 11:16 am

lol We already had a few and then she gave birth to 15 babies and we got a few from sheerness didnt we
we dont have a macro yet either we being crafty and using a macro ring so you just turn the lense around
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PostSubject: Re: Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread    E  flavicaudis - Euscorpius flavicaudis Discussion Thread   - Page 2 Empty6/12/2011, 11:59 am

oh yeah naturally..
i forgot you had new babies.
i just looked at your pics Razz

how big is that P. regalis btw?
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Great pics bex! Wish i could zoom in like you, comes in handy when shooting a tiny widow..
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thanx be much better when we get the proper macro lense and lighting though

um regalis is about 2"
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^ oh it looks mahoosive in the pics lol
how much did it set you back or was that a b'day present?
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was a pressie Smile but would have been £10
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^ still, that's surprisingly not much. an adult would set you back 10X as much Smile
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'kin hell they are greedy.
each one has a cricket head sticking out of its mouth lol.
they are a bit fat now lol. won't feed them for a while
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must be hungry lol Smile
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i guess so..
they probably don't eat a lot in the 'wild' anything they can get which is pretty much just wood lice, not the S. florentina (they'z nasty)

just noticed, my big yellow banner is quite distracting lol
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these e.flavs can go a whole year on one feed Tom Smile

hmm yeah the yellow is slightly nauseating
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tom mine are both stuffing their gobs too :L
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these e.flavs can go a whole year on one feed Tom Smile

hmm yeah the yellow is slightly nauseating

how often do you feed 'em bex?
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