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+4scorpion111 _scorpio_ Mr. Mordax Matt Kogler 8 posters |
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Matt Kogler Pandinus
Number of posts : 4 Age : 53 Location : Newport Beach,Ca. Registration date : 2009-02-23
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 12:45 pm | |
| From the tail, I'd guess some sort of Vaejovid. I couldn't tell you anything more. | |
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Matt Kogler Pandinus
Number of posts : 4 Age : 53 Location : Newport Beach,Ca. Registration date : 2009-02-23
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 1:20 pm | |
| Yeah I've got that far, I was hoping with the info on exactly where it was collected could help with a full ID... I take it many sub species overlap ranges? Noticing your screen name I thought you'd like this pic.. This was collected in the same local, U. mordax... | |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus
Number of posts : 1827 Age : 30 Location : St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 1:45 pm | |
| by the size of their tails i would hazard a guess at some sort of Vaejovidae... i will go check the scorpionfiles to see if i can find a match... | |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus
Number of posts : 1827 Age : 30 Location : St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 2:10 pm | |
| looks like a Vaejovis coahuilae ----> http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/v_coahuilae1.jpg | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 2:25 pm | |
| I think we need some clearer pics, it would help ALOT. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 3:25 pm | |
| I'm not aware of a lot of subspecies of scorpions -- where the name goes Genus species subspecies, like Hadrurus arizonensis pallidus -- but Hoffimanus and Vaejovis are quite large genera. Scorpio, I don't know if it would be that species considering the locale. I found those guys in west Texas. - Matt Kogler wrote:
- Noticing your screen name I thought you'd like this pic..
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This was collected in the same local, U. mordax... Yes. Yes I would. I didn't know U. mordax was found that far south. | |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus
Number of posts : 2631 Age : 46 Location : West Yorkshire, England Registration date : 2008-07-12
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 3:57 pm | |
| *rolls eyes*
dont get him going on the u.mordax again!!!! he eats, breathes and sleeps them! | |
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Matt Kogler Pandinus
Number of posts : 4 Age : 53 Location : Newport Beach,Ca. Registration date : 2009-02-23
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 4:13 pm | |
| I made a big mistake, it is A. pococki I was just corrected on another forum, so its not U. mordax..Sry..
And as far as closer pics, this is as good as I can get. It is about 3/4 of an inch long and my camera doesnt zoom any more.. (I cropped down to get these..) | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 4:19 pm | |
| - Matt Kogler wrote:
- I made a big mistake, it is A. pococki I was just corrected on another forum, so its not U. mordax..Sry..
No worries, they're pretty similar genera. At least this explains why it was found so far south. Sorry I can't provide any more information on the Vaejovids. | |
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Matt Kogler Pandinus
Number of posts : 4 Age : 53 Location : Newport Beach,Ca. Registration date : 2009-02-23
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/23/2009, 9:03 pm | |
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scorpling~ Centruroides
Number of posts : 162 Age : 43 Location : Malaysia Registration date : 2008-12-19
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 2/28/2009, 9:03 am | |
| this is d closest i can come up with.. Paruroctonus gracilior - "Paruroctonus thus currently includes 29 species and 4 subspecies, all fossorial and most psammophilous, inhabiting sand dune systems throughout the deserts of the western USA and northwestern Mexico. Some, e.g. P. gracilior, prefer packed sandy soils and even rocky or gravelly habitats. The dune systems of Chihuahua and Coahuila have not been well sampled and new Paruroctonus species may occur there." link
another link-2 | |
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diabollicallycursed Babycurus
Number of posts : 365 Age : 39 Location : Ontario Canada Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 3/26/2009, 3:06 am | |
| No its not a P. Gracilior hence the laymen name Chihuahuan Slendertailed Scorpion the one in his picture has a much wider tail then that of a slender tail. my guess is a Centruroides vittatus but I'm probably very wrong. | |
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diabollicallycursed Babycurus
Number of posts : 365 Age : 39 Location : Ontario Canada Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 3/26/2009, 3:11 am | |
| Centruroides sculpturatus is also another educated guess. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 3/26/2009, 3:12 am | |
| Those aren't buthids; we've narrowed it down to vaejovids long ago. | |
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diabollicallycursed Babycurus
Number of posts : 365 Age : 39 Location : Ontario Canada Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 3/26/2009, 4:28 am | |
| heck this site out you it might help http://pagesperso-orange.fr/eycb/scorpions/Gafrique.htm | |
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Zach J. Valois Pandinus
Number of posts : 4 Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Scorp ID needed 7/21/2009, 7:10 pm | |
| You got A. pococki right.
Your other specimens look to be (and coincide in regards to locality) Serradigitus g. gertschi. | |
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