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+4Canth scorpion111 ~Abyss~ Mr. Mordax 8 posters |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: A bit of a conundrum 12/2/2008, 7:32 pm | |
| I stopped at the local pet store today, and saw an adult Babycurus sp. for only $30. The thing is huge, but it also has bulbous pinchers. So I don't know if it's a female B. jacksoni or a male B. gigas. The store's invoice when they got it only gave a common name. Obviously, if it's the former, I'd love to get it. There's just two problems -- I'm not absolutely sure that's what it is, and Lori and I are pretty much broke until January 5th. EPIC SIGH. Speaking of common names, does "golden thick-tail" mean Androctonus amoreuxi? 'Cause the owner didn't want to carry M. martensii after I described the sting reports to him (yeah, I know Babycurus spp. are worse and he's carrying those). Oh, and it sounds like they'll be getting in Hadrurus spadix soon. Too bad I'm moving towards communal-only species. | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 35 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/2/2008, 7:33 pm | |
| Give me your paypal I'll loan you a few bucks. | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/2/2008, 7:35 pm | |
| awwww, that sucks dude.yeah, I think "golden fat tail" is amoureuxi, seeing as the austrailis' last few metasomal segments are dark. and I hope you get that spadix, those are stunning scorpions. | |
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Canth Babycurus
Number of posts : 299 Age : 31 Location : Houston, TX. The Armpit of Texas Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/2/2008, 11:34 pm | |
| Maybe you can ask the shop person to hold it for you until then? Wish I could help but I'm pretty much broke as well.
What color is the scorp? | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 12:49 am | |
| Eddy, Lori glared at me and said "no!" Jordan, while spadix are sweet, I'm staying away from solitary species. At least, if someone gets it knows nothing and assumes "scorpion = desert" then they won't kill this one. Jared, I might just ask him that. He's a pretty cool guy to work with. The scorp was sort of a darker burnt-orange color. Comparing my memory of this afternoon to my preserved specimens, she seemed to be a little larger than my female but with chela as proportionately large as my male. | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 35 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 12:58 am | |
| it sound like gigas to me. PM your paypal if you change your mind this might just be oppertunity passing you by. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 1:12 am | |
| How opportunistic is it to buy a male of a species I never see? | |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus
Number of posts : 1827 Age : 29 Location : St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 12:32 pm | |
| - Mr. Mordax wrote:
Jordan, while spadix are sweet, I'm staying away from solitary species. At least, if someone gets it knows nothing and assumes "scorpion = desert" then they won't kill this one.
he is calum i am jordan!! | |
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Kejser Administrator
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 37 Location : Denmark Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 1:16 pm | |
| Well B.gigas is around 9cm or more.. | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 1:28 pm | |
| OI! calum... well me, jordan... _scorpio_ | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 35 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/3/2008, 7:29 pm | |
| - Mr. Mordax wrote:
- How opportunistic is it to buy a male of a species I never see?
You only need the female to breed. And I'm sure you can get loans from people who have them and I happen to know a few. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/4/2008, 12:18 am | |
| Based on what Kejser said about size, I'm wondering if it's not a huge B. jacksoni, 'cause I don't think it's as big as B. gigas. I need to go back and get a closer look (or show you guys a picture). To the two UK kids -- I scrolled up enough to see a black-and-white avatar and thought it was the bottom of a scorpion's pinchers. That's what you get for changing your avatars so much! | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 35 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/4/2008, 12:22 am | |
| defiantly take a pic with size comparison . B gigas. are exactly like jacks just a whole lot bigger. If you kept b. jacks for a while you can easily ID the gigas. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/4/2008, 12:29 am | |
| My last B. jacksoni died . . . um, quite a while ago. Spring? I forget. I've got the preserved male / female pair that made it to adulthood. Do you think it would be overstepping my bounds as a customer if I took those into the shop and photographed for a size comparison? | |
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Kejser Administrator
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 37 Location : Denmark Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/4/2008, 6:22 am | |
| http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23293 Look at the colors
and look at the size
http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22510&hl=gigas
I have a really huge B.jacks but she aint a B.gigas | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/10/2008, 5:12 pm | |
| I went back and took a picture . . . On the left is their scorp, on the right is my (deceased) male B. jacksoni. I texted a small version of this pic to Eddy and Jared -- Eddy said B. gigas, Jared said B. jacksoni. The size difference looks about like the pic Kejser linked. Either way, I know now that it's definitely male, so I'm decidedly less interested than I was originally. | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/10/2008, 5:28 pm | |
| I think that is a Gigas.. look at the size of that thing. | |
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Kejser Administrator
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 37 Location : Denmark Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/10/2008, 5:29 pm | |
| iam going to say B.jacksonii | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/10/2008, 7:01 pm | |
| Same picture, edited. So would you just say it's a very large male B. jacksoni, Kejser? My male's mesosoma could have shrunk a little during the preservation process, but this one's pedipalps and metasoma seem much more robust. | |
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~Abyss~ Administrator
Number of posts : 6472 Age : 35 Location : Los Angeles Cali. Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/10/2008, 7:40 pm | |
| Like I said I've seen "small" gigas only a bit bigger than jacksonii at shows. | |
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*Connie* Post-whore
Number of posts : 3705 Age : 40 Location : England Registration date : 2008-02-06
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 12/11/2008, 1:34 pm | |
| Either way, it's a male for certain, so I'm distinctly less interested. If I'm going to get an adult male of a species, I'd like to know how old it is so I have a chance to find a mate before he kicks the bucket.
Like my immature C. margaritatus -- if it turns out to be a male, I'll know as soon as it matures and have the best shot at finding a female (or vice-versa). | |
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thumpersalley Hadogenes
Number of posts : 58 Age : 47 Registration date : 2008-10-18
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 8/17/2009, 1:42 pm | |
| - Mr. Mordax wrote:
- My last B. jacksoni died . . . um, quite a while ago. Spring? I forget. I've got the preserved male / female pair that made it to adulthood. Do you think it would be overstepping my bounds as a customer if I took those into the shop and photographed for a size comparison?
If your talking about the pet store in Corvallis, go ahead & overstep your customer bounds. The guys an unethical jerk. He will either let you do it, which Im sure he will, or not. Kim | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: A bit of a conundrum 8/17/2009, 8:37 pm | |
| Um . . . this was quite a while ago (December '08). I did bring in my specimen for a comparison and decided it was just a very large male B. jacksoni. The folks at this particular store are fairly nice but more or less uninformed when it comes to scorpions. | |
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