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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Slithering Waters 11/16/2008, 7:38 pm | |
| Homalopsines (Asian Water Snakes) The water snakes I currently possess all belong to the Homalopsinae family; a group of Southeast-Asian rear-fanged snakes thought to be colubrids but have been hypothesized to derive from a more archaic branch of the order Serpentes. Each species possesses it sown unique and highly specialized evolutionary adaptations for life in the water. I currently own 2 species of homalopsines; 3 Rainbow Water Snakes ( Enhydris enhydris) and 2 Plumbeous/Olive/Yellow-bellied Water Snake ( Enhydris plumbea) My experience with them has been an absolute pleasure. Their readiness to feed is satisfyingly coupled with the convenience of feeding them; simply dump in a load of feeder fish and replenish the stocks as they deplete.' ' Enhydris Set Up Aug 2008 – The Crown Jewel My current Enhydris setup is a 3ft community tank with a DIY top and a submerged filter with a custom water-fall outlet (custom meaning piecing together filter scrap-parts). Fine gravel is used as substrate and live plants are anchored to a buried plastic grate to prevent the snakes from uprooting them. For a dry basking spot, I rigged a combination of choice driftwood stacked over a broken flower pot. The fracture of the pot itself conveniently created a large underwater chamber; ideal as an underwater retreat for the snakes to and swallow their meals. Floating water-lettuce are highly favorable as anchors, but they have to be replenished occasionally as the plants don’t seem to do well in-doors. Here's a side view of the tank showing two of my Rainbows. The Plumbeous (below) is the more terrestrial of the two species and is more inclined to hoist its prey up onto dry land, whereas the Rainbow is accustomed to engulfing its prey underwater. Similarly the Plumbeous spends more time basking on the logs when not feeding while the Rainbows seem content to coil-up among the water plants as shown below. It is understood that it is not usually a good idea to mix snakes of different species. Nonetheless, I was also informed that these species do indeed share the same habitats and distribution range such as the brackish water systems of the Tonle Sap. In captivity, they do not seem to mind each others company. If need be they would curl up side by side or in writhing mass as shown in these pics of older setups. I have future plans to throw Enhydris bocourti and Homalopsis buccata into this mix in a much bigger setup. Here are some selected pics of some of them individually. Lucifer on the prowl Annubis the giant, my largest Rainbow Water Snake, now deceased' ' Chimera, my largest Plumbeous Water Snake, pre-moult colors above. Recently I rearranged my my tanks in my Pet Room to this current setting. I have my Liocheles collection and my prize female Het spinny shelved on the left. The tank with the latches and the skull houses Midnight; my Equatorial Spitting Cobra and the tank below it is Nabau’s (my retic) pad. The tanks to the right contain predatory fish; a Crocodile Gar, a Tire-track Eel, two Clown Knife Fishes, a cyprinid I caught in a river and a Synodontis on top; a Red Tailed catfish that ate countless tankmates until we had to house him alone below.' ' The empty tank in the middle is awaiting some Tentacled Snakes (can’t wait)' '.
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/16/2008, 7:46 pm | |
| AWESOME!
those snakes are STUNNING! the setups are really pretty as well. i'd love to have a herp room like yours! | |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus
Number of posts : 2631 Age : 46 Location : West Yorkshire, England Registration date : 2008-07-12
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/16/2008, 7:51 pm | |
| they are beautiful... I love naturally planted tanks. | |
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bjaeger Leiurus
Number of posts : 2282 Age : 36 Location : Pennsylvania, US Registration date : 2008-04-29
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/16/2008, 9:46 pm | |
| Definitely a sweet setup that you have! I'll bet he's one happy snake! Thanks for sharing. | |
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Kejser Administrator
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 38 Location : Denmark Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/16/2008, 10:12 pm | |
| Are any of the water snakes venomus? | |
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*Connie* Post-whore
Number of posts : 3705 Age : 40 Location : England Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/17/2008, 3:51 am | |
| that is great! Love it! xxxx | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/17/2008, 4:07 am | |
| Homalopsines are rear-fanged snakes. They are mildly venomous but human envenomation is rare if not ever documented. I've been nipped in annoyance a couple of times but never to the extent of the snake chewing into me which would have to occur if envenomation were to take place. | |
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lycanlord Leiurus
Number of posts : 2916 Age : 36 Location : Barnsley Registration date : 2008-06-03
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/17/2008, 7:17 am | |
| yeah you need a good few chews lol same with western hognose | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/17/2008, 10:43 am | |
| Pure awesome. I would love to see those guys feeding. | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/18/2008, 12:25 am | |
| Thanks guys I've actually posted a short vid of my juve Rainbows feeding on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGdTVQdolnY You can check that out if ya want Mike... I've also got a bunch of vids on my channel of snakes, but none of scorps as I haven't managed to cut any particularly remarkable ones yet. https://www.youtube.com/user/LXDNG Cheers | |
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Andrew273 Tityus
Number of posts : 503 Age : 34 Location : Colorado Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/18/2008, 2:00 am | |
| I'm so jealous of your snakes. To keep venomous snakes where I live you need this ridiculous permit. I want an awesome water snake one day... | |
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Zero Hadogenes
Number of posts : 79 Age : 35 Location : Yorkshire, UK Registration date : 2008-10-02
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/18/2008, 7:51 am | |
| Wow they look awesome! Very interesting! | |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus
Number of posts : 2631 Age : 46 Location : West Yorkshire, England Registration date : 2008-07-12
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 11/18/2008, 11:01 am | |
| the cobra's feeding was pretty good | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/18/2008, 1:35 pm | |
| Here's my latest addition to slithering waters. My Puff-faced/Masked Water Snake (Homalopsis buccata). I was never taken by them though they were readily available at my local pet store. One day I walked in and opened the cage. This one came right up to me and climbed onto my hand. I was sold. These markings are infamously more striking in juveniles, but I've no complaints here at all Portrait shot of "Puff" Here he is mingling with his tank buddies. I've uploaded some vids of him taking fish from my hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaxnbk6QeJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8jeJoieow | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/18/2008, 1:59 pm | |
| Interesting behavior in that first video . . . grabbing the fish and then slithering away to a shelter to feed on it. | |
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Venom Centruroides suffusus
Number of posts : 2834 Age : 2020 Location : Chicago Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/18/2008, 2:22 pm | |
| Awesome!
I've never had any aquatic animal. A snake that's aquatic. Hmmmm | |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus
Number of posts : 1827 Age : 30 Location : St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/18/2008, 4:04 pm | |
| are they all venomus? would i need a DWA for one? where in England can i buy one? why dont i have one already? they are great snakes and ,in my opinion, better to feed. the fish they eat, do they have to be anything specific? or could they just eat goldfish? | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/22/2008, 7:01 am | |
| I'm sorry I can't say that I'm aware of anything with regards to animal regulations in the UK, cos I've never been or lived there. Sadly, in Malaysia the authorities take very little interest in wild life, unless they wanna bust someone. Pet shops readily sell anything without due permits and it makes me wonder how they stay out of trouble.
As said before they are rear-fanged snakes which means there is not a great deal to worry about with the exception of the African boomslang or perhaps the burrowing asp.
Homalopsines in general make very rewarding pets to keep. They will eat any fish of appropriate size. | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 12/22/2008, 3:10 pm | |
| - _scorpio_ wrote:
- would i need a DWA for one?
I posted a list of all DWA regulated species in the "DWA poll and discussion" thread a while ago -- you can look up what snakes are listed there. I think it's in the "communal discussion" area. | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/17/2009, 10:35 pm | |
| Two new additions to Slithering Waters are 2 colossal Masked/Puff-faced Water Snakes ( Homalopsis buccata); much larger than my previous one. They were given to me by a friend for lending him my other water snakes for a reptile exhibition. These monsters also require bigger prey items than your average feeder carp or tilapia. I feed them local barbs that are available at the store as feeder fish. Initially, due to their size, I was a bit worried they might inhale one of my smaller snakes. But after prolonged observation, my paranoia were quelled. They seem to just make way for each other and get along fine that way. Last but not least, I've been given stewardship of a little stray plumbea that a good friend found on the road during the rains. I've named him(her) Goldie for obvious reasons. This specimens has a stylish yellow lateral streak. That brings the total tank population to 9 snakes; 3 of each species. Here are some shots of the tank with the current mix of inhabitants. These pictures display anchorage preferences between the buccatas and plumbeas The Masked 'wyrms' tend to spend most of their time anchoring their tails to terrain at the waters edge while the yellow bellies prefer anchoring themselves to roots of aquatic vegetation in deeper water. Speaking of vegetation, I recently noticed that the humid conditions of the tank apparently sprouted an unexpected albeit pleasant surprise. . Latest pic of my water snake tank; my crown jewel coming soon Erpeton tentaculum and Achordus javanicus | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/17/2009, 10:46 pm | |
| Congratulations on your new additions! are these W/C? | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/17/2009, 10:58 pm | |
| Beautiful additions; that's cool that you can keep a multispecies community going. Kudos on the plant growth, as well. That's cool that you lend your specimens out for expos. | |
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LXDNG79 Tityus
Number of posts : 605 Age : 45 Location : Borneo, Sarawak, Malaysia Registration date : 2008-10-16
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/19/2009, 6:35 pm | |
| Most if not all local exos found in pet shops here in Malaysia are most likely W/C. There are very few people into breeding local snakes here. Can't imagine why? lol | |
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junshern222 Centruroides
Number of posts : 207 Age : 37 Registration date : 2008-11-25
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/21/2009, 7:21 am | |
| that was awesome.. cant wait to visit ur house... | |
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ManicDan Centruroides
Number of posts : 208 Age : 38 Location : Vermont Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Slithering Waters 1/21/2009, 11:02 am | |
| Such a sweet set-up! Gorgeous snakes! | |
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