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PostSubject: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:46 am

my L. mucronatus died a few minutes ago and I can't exactly put my finger on why. I noticed it was moving slowly yesterday but thought nothing of it at first. then I threw in a couple crickets and it caught one and just hung out there for a little bit then moved over the top of it's cork leanto where I watched it jerk and twitch violently and drop the already dead cricket and run behind the cork as if ashamed of it's outburst. I then noted it trying to grab it's ceiling from it's cork wall and I lifted the top part of it's enclosure and set it on it's side to calm it down and it again reacted violently as though it were trying to kill itself. I ushered it to it's substrate and put the enclosure back together and just found it floating in it's water dish. *the scorp is very familiar with it's water dish and often hangs out on the side of it but never gets any further than the waters edge.

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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 5:15 am

Wow dude... That's really weird! I guess it's just random acts of nature. Maybe it developed some kind of brain disease or something that drove it to the brink of insanity (if that's even possible with scorps). I really have no idea. I'm sorry for your loss, man.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 3:11 pm

eeeek!

I have no idea why that happened...but clearly something went wrong "inside" for the scorpion to go all silly and then be found floating in the water bowl!
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 3:29 pm

yep, some violent shaking and then found floating like Elvis Presley's last act - a regular rockstar outro
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:03 pm

maybe he hated the name "Feng Shui"
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:04 pm

maybe it saw you on the boards
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:18 pm

jmoran1097 wrote:
maybe he hated the name "Feng Shui"

thats a bit friggin cold dude,
sorry to hear bout it rasp
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:34 pm

thnx Graham.

considering Fengu Shui is a practice of organization in order to achieve a zen balance of yin and yang and translates as Wind Water, I'm sure the Chinese Swimming Scorpion would have been fine with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 4:41 pm

I think its a nice name!..well it was a nice name RIP
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 5:21 pm

it sounds like a very well thought at name really, you thought of any other reason for the unfortunate death?
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 5:27 pm

the name came from a pic I took of the enclosure and I referred to it as "good feng shui" and then decided to name the scorp that as it is unisex and I hadn't sexed the scorp. no clue on the death, quite mysterious
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 5:37 pm

Was there any mold in the tank? Fungi can do a lot of odd stuff to lots of different animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 5:54 pm

I don't want to sound like a jerk when saying this but there's no way around it. I'm an advanced keeper not some kid who just picked up a scorp and only thinks mold grows on rotten food - no, there was no mold
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:00 pm

EWom wrote:
Was there any mold in the tank? Fungi can do a lot of odd stuff to lots of different animals.

lmao,
i guess sometimes you cant really explain a death without autopsy, which i would imagine is harder to perform on a scorp than a human mainy to size, do you plan to go any further to try and find out what happened, although t be honest i think it was just a freak occurance, i cant imagine ud make any stupid noob mistakes/
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:08 pm

well, it's in the graveyard - that is to say it's in a 50 dram vial of iso alcohol in the freezer. I may or may not slice it open when I get a microscope but I plan on making paperweights out of my losses
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:31 pm

paperweights, you gunna encase them in lucite or something else?
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:42 pm

Rasputin wrote:
I don't want to sound like a jerk when saying this but there's no way around it. I'm an advanced keeper not some kid who just picked up a scorp and only thinks mold grows on rotten food - no, there was no mold

Well sorry, but if you're such an advanced keeper, why are you having such a hard time figuring out the death of your scorp?

You also realize that you don't have to actively see mold in the tank for there to be mold? There could be spores from any previous mold found in the cage or feeders cage, or even in your home anywhere that made it's way to the enclosure.

How about feeders? What have been feeding the feeders? Where do you get your feeders? Have you seen an increased mortality rate of your feeders, which could lead to a parasite passing through the feeder colony and into your scorpions.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:48 pm

id say the reason he is finding it hard to figure out why it died is cuz ell mainly when any scorp dies if it isnt immediately obvious and it isnt old age then its going to be hard no matter how experienced you are.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 6:59 pm

Sorry to hear about the lose Ras. It is a bit ironic that the Chinese swimming scorpion died in water.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:18 pm

I've seen 2 scorps in my life resurect from drowning. And i was convinced they were dead too but in a few days they started walking and eating again.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:22 pm

sometimes death is inexplicable - nobody has been able to offer any explanation. mold is not logical in that it would have affected my other scorps and ts because they are all fed from the same stocks and all maintained in a similar manner. even my 7 little I.macs are eating whole crickets their size with no ramifications
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:23 pm

lycanlord19 wrote:
paperweights, you gunna encase them in lucite or something else?

generically speaking, yes
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:25 pm

Athlon2k2 wrote:
Sorry to hear about the lose Ras. It is a bit ironic that the Chinese swimming scorpion died in water.

ironic indeed

~Abyss~ wrote:
I've seen 2 scorps in my life resurect from drowning. And i was convinced they were dead too but in a few days they started walking and eating again.

very much dead, not stunned, not faking - d e a d, dead. I waited a bit to see
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:30 pm

You dont understand I was twirling my scorps by the tail. It WAS COMPLETLY dead. NOT FAKING. Then a few days later it just started walking again. But for 4 days it remained motionless in the same position.
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PostSubject: Re: Feng Shui Committed suicide!!!   6/11/2008, 7:42 pm

you know what Eddy? damn you! where were you yesterday when I sat here hovering over my scorpion waiting for it to dry off and trying to figure out what may have caused this? I added you on the ATSHQ btw
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