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PostSubject: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 11:24 am

hey!
do you guys know of a desert scorpion that can be held in a 45x45x45?
it MUST be a desert scorpion, noe tropical..

it would be cool if they could be held 2-4 together, and not to small, but not to big either
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 3:36 pm

CM??? If so, probably any of them.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:01 pm

Any desert species can be kept in that size.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:04 pm

Any excact spicie? Smile
i like to have something to go out from
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:07 pm

If you want something communal I would suggest Hottentotta hottentotta or maybe one of the other species.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:14 pm

i'm not quit a fan of hottentotta sp.. Razz
I like more "aggresive" spiecies. that "make their own" enviroment and holes and so on
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:18 pm

The more aggressive species would definitely include Parabuthus, Androctonus and Leiurus and are not communal.
Some Parabuthus love digging and making deep burrows.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 4:22 pm

are there any "semi-aggressive" spicies that can be held 2-4 together?
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/20/2012, 8:15 pm

Leiurus quinquestriatus are communal as adults.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 7:42 am

i can't have anything that so too venomous.
and a scorpion that would use the whole terrarium
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 9:35 am

maybe a parabuthu or androctunus spiecies?
any info about them? which one is best?

those are so beutifull
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 10:09 am

Yames wrote:
Leiurus quinquestriatus are communal as adults.
I learn something new every day.

@rubenevo, Parabuthus and Androctonus are both very dangerous.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 10:17 am

any similar? this is not my first scorpions Smile
It would be great if i could make a terrarium with stones, hills, logs and maybe a few plants (as realistic as possible)
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 12:22 pm

For communal, C. Vittatus or C. Sculpturatus. Some of my C. Vittatus are very aggressive, so much, it's sad.
Others can be Hadrurus arizonensis, Smeringurus mesaensis, and Hoffimanius spinigerus.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 12:30 pm

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For communal, C. Vittatus or C. Sculpturatus. Some of my C. Vittatus are very aggressive, so much, it's sad.
Others can be Hadrurus arizonensis, Smeringurus mesaensis, and Hoffimanius spinigerus.

are all these desert scorpions? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 1:05 pm

The C. vits are not true desert scorps but have a very wide range from dry to wet. I keep mine communally on a 50/50 mixture of sand and coco fiber with a small water bowl filled at all times. I mist the cage once a week.

As a side note, they can tolerate cold temps so they might do OK in a chilly house in Norway. They don't burrow at all. I have a small under the tank reptile heater under one side of the tank and they do like to hang out over it. They can tolerate dry and chilly but I think they prefer warm and moderate humidity. I love mine. They are cool little scorps and easy to care for. Also, they are very communal and will share hides.

I have two stacks of cork bark in their tank. One on the cool side and one on the warm side. They usually are on the warm side. They love to climb! (but can't climb glass).
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 1:39 pm

i have it pretty hot in my room Wink

but i am sometimes away for 2 weeks at a time (once a year), and i love desert spicies! Razz
thats why i want a desert scorp
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 2:48 pm

rubenevo wrote:
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For communal, C. Vittatus or C. Sculpturatus. Some of my C. Vittatus are very aggressive, so much, it's sad.
Others can be Hadrurus arizonensis, Smeringurus mesaensis, and Hoffimanius spinigerus.

are all these desert scorpions? Smile
The Centruroides species are bark dwellers and need near vertical surfaces to help with molting. The rest are desert dwellers and would do well in the style of enclosure you are considering. The Hadrurus and Smeringurus shouldn't be kept communally, but the Hoffimanius can.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 3:02 pm

i liked s. measensis, and i love thicktail like scorpions of that might help? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 3:53 pm

Most of the "thick tail" species, besides being highly venomous, cannot be kept communally. The exception I know of is Hottentota hottentota which can be kept in groups. H. hottentota is also parthenogenetic in addition to being highly venomous.

S. measensis would be a good choice but need to be kept individually.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 4:05 pm

are'nt there any true desert spiecies that lives in colonies?
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 5:49 pm

There are a few communal desert scorpions but most have been ruled out. Mesobuthus you have, Hottentotta hottentotta which has been ruled out but there are other species of Hottentotta that can be kept communally. Then there is Hoffmannius as well.
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/21/2012, 10:25 pm

How about Centruroides sculpturatus? (Can't remember if I suggested this before.)
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/22/2012, 5:01 pm

shadowfoot wrote:
There are a few communal desert scorpions but most have been ruled out. Mesobuthus you have, Hottentotta hottentotta which has been ruled out but there are other species of Hottentotta that can be kept communally. Then there is Hoffmannius as well.
i have 2 M. Gibbosus (?) Wink
robert44 wrote:
How about Centruroides sculpturatus? (Can't remember if I suggested this before.)
This one was cool! are the communal?

and do someone have a setup guide to this one?
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PostSubject: Re: desert scorpion   12/22/2012, 6:22 pm

rubenevo wrote:
VictorHernandez wrote:
For communal, C. Vittatus or C. Sculpturatus. Some of my C. Vittatus are very aggressive, so much, it's sad.
Others can be Hadrurus arizonensis, Smeringurus mesaensis, and Hoffimanius spinigerus.

are all these desert scorpions? Smile
Yes...they can be kept as deserts.
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