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Yames
Tityus
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PostSubject: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/8/2012, 3:19 pm

I would like to know the approximate age of my 2 scorpions as well as have their sex confirmed by the group.

This is my P. li set up and pics.

Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus P_li_a10
Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus New_sc13
Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus P_li_a12

And now my Lq

Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus P_li_a13
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Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus P_li_a14

Thanks in advance.
James
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shadowfoot
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/8/2012, 4:01 pm

The P.leiosoma is female and the LQ looks female as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/8/2012, 9:53 pm

I had a guy from another forum review my pics and he's saying Lq is male. I thought female too. I sure hope our resident scorpion guru's help me out here.
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**GS**
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 12:43 am

Beautiful ladies Smile
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Yames
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 1:38 am

oh GS I was hoping you would help out with the ages too... As my favorite scorpion person in the whole wide world. And from the term ladies I take it you're saying both Female?
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 3:46 am

Yames wrote:
As my favorite scorpion person in the whole wide world

Who wouldnt be willing to help after that suck up? Laughing emp
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CactusHugger
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 4:08 am

If you need another opinion I think both female as well haha
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 6:23 am

Oh crap Dan's on to me...
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**GS**
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 8:05 am

Yames is just being nice with his words Smile

P.liosoma is likely to be 6.instar and for L.quinquestriatus, i'm leaning towards 7.instar.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 8:13 am

You can sex both those scorps without pectin counts. It's not as foolproof as pectin counts but the overall body shapes help with sexing, female LQ are much larger and more robust than males. Parabuthus can also be sexed by the thickness and roundness of their chelae.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/9/2012, 1:10 pm

Parabuthus females can also be identified by the enlarged "tooths" on the basal lamellae.

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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/24/2012, 8:35 pm

Well looks like GS pegged the Lq. As i've started a new topic about the babies it starting popping out last night. It's the same Lq pictured here. I still don't think she looked gravid. But I'm obviously %100 wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus   Sexing my Parabuthus Liosoma and Leiurus quinquestriatus Empty10/24/2012, 11:45 pm

Don't blame yourself for it. From the pics, she can be looking just like a well-fed scorpion.

Unless a keeper mated a pair himself, or bought a possibly gravid female(as told by his dealer), not many would readily expect any "popping" to happen.

For those who wish to follow the story of this Leiurus quinquestriatus , here's the link:
http://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/t9085p15-lq-birth-didn-t-know-it-was-gravid
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