mating M. Martensii

Hi!
I have 1.1 (i am 99% sure about that) m. martensii. i want to get them to mate, but how do i do it?
what sort off decor in the terrarium? just a flat rock?

i would appriciate it very much if you guys can tell me everything i need to know!

This [HOW TO] should get you started.

Thank you!
How long time does it take before they mate? And in the How To it says i must introduce them to eachother, but they are currently living in the same tank, and they have done that the entire life. What should i do?

For an adult pair which are living together in a communal setup, sighting of their mating process is rare as most of the time when they actually "do that", you are most likely not watching them.

Also, as the pair get accustomed to having each other around, the mating attempt reduces as the male is more and more certain of the female being gravid. You may leave them as they are and continue to feed them well.

If you are hoping to view a mating attempt by the male, you may remove the male to a separate tank for two weeks or more and then re-introduce the male to the adult female. The adult male should then make a sexual advancement to the female by attempting a "courtship-dance" however, if the female is already gravid, she would most likely show signs of rejection.

GS wrote:

For an adult pair which are living together in a communal setup, sighting of their mating process is rare as most of the time when they actually "do that", you are most likely not watching them.

Also, as the pair get accustomed to having each other around, the mating attempt reduces as the male is more and more certain of the female being gravid. You may leave them as they are and continue to feed them well.

If you are hoping to view a mating attempt by the male, you may remove the male to a separate tank for two weeks or more and then re-introduce the male to the adult female. The adult male should then make a sexual advancement to the female by attempting a "courtship-dance" however, if the female is already gravid, she would most likely show signs of rejection.

So, basicly split them up and then introduce the male again?
Is it anything else i need to know before i try to get them to mate? Any optimal setup, feeding and all that?

Do note that the act of "splitting them up and re-introduction" is not so much for their sake, it's mainly for you to view the mating attempt by the male, nothing else.

Optimal setup for mating? Not much to do, if both specimen are sexual matured and that the female is not already gravid, they would readily mate with simply the presence of a flat solid surface. Meaning, it's possible for a pair to mate in just an empty kritter tank.

However, as mentioned, your pair has already been living communally, if they are both adults, mating should have already taken place if there's a solid ground/slate for the male to place his spermatophore.

Feeding wise, just keep them well-fed. For adults, one appropriately sized feeder every 10-14 days would suffice.

ok, i've just put in two flat stones. But thet do not lay flat, they have an angle, is that ok?
And thanks for all the information!!
should i put them together in a smaller container or can i use the 30x30x30? i can make a enclosure with a flat rock if that make the chanche for mating bigger?

Not a prob.

Sight angle should be fine. If possible, take some shots of the pair and your setup, others can help to chip in ideas/advices that are "tailored" to your needs

Cheers!

ok!
Where should i post the pics?

Right here should be fine. I have never seen my Mesobuthus mate but ended up with 3 gravid females. She should have mated already like GS mentioned but there is no harm in trying again.

I've had them since new year and none of them has molted so they are adults. They did not have a flat surface before, but they have it now so i hope thay mate..
I can upload the pics tomorrow!

but what should i do if they dont mate?

If they dont mate it usually means two things, they are both the same sex or the female is already gravid. You cant really do anything about it except find another female to breed with or if they are the same sex, just find another one of the opposite gender.

Have you sexed them yourself? M. martensii are very easy to sex by just looking at their chelae.

Not sure if you've seen it, but here are a couple of mating pics for the sp.

hmm, i'm not sure now.. The guy tht sold them to me said it was a male and a female..

how do i upload the pics?

GS wrote:

how do i upload the pics?

Either upload them to photobucket (or similar) and use the IMG tags, or upload directly using servimg.

Abyss wrote:

Free Image Hosting:
Click the icon that looks like this --->
If you haven't registered it only takes a few minutes. You can also click on the Servimg header and it opens up a new window which I find more conviniant than having the little pop-up that comes up.

i am not allowed to link pics for 7 days because i am new to the forum, what should i do?

You should be able to post using the servimg.

If not, PM me the URL's and I'll post them for you.

there, i had to post them separate!

Are you 100% sure they are martensii?

M. martensii's metasoma have a black V segment.

DolbyR wrote:

Are you 100% sure they are martensii?

M. martensii's metasoma have a black V segment.

the guy i bought them from said they where martensii's.. but he is not a speacialist..
what do u think they are?

I might be wrong but they look like Mesobuthus gibbosus?

Haha, yeah they look like a gibbosus!

Definitely not martensii.

Yes, indeed look like gibbosus. Can you get close-up pictures from them?