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PostSubject: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 12:16 am

Hey guys!

Just bought my second species of scorps!
Now im going to try with the Jacksonis. Found them at a reptile show this weekend, and i was in love.. They are so pretty! Bought a mom with a bunch of babies, that has just left her back. And the second one is a gravid female Smile So i guess im going to get my hands full, as my H. Laoticus just gave birth a month ago.
What i have read so far, they are not the most needy scorps, correct me if im wrong!
Im going to buy two terrariums for them this week - 30x30x30 exoterra. Will it be enough for them, so i can make a communal tank, and how many could i have in one of them?

Will post pics of the sweeties as soon as i got the tanks set up Smile

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 1:51 am

Congrats on the new additions!

I have limited time at the moment, so here's a link that has a lot of information on B. jacksoni. http://www.ntnu.no/ub/scorpion-files/b_jacksoni_info.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 3:06 am

30x30x30 exo-terra may be used for adults, not so much for young instars, as escapees may be an issue.

For the highest survival rate, young instar may be housed individually in pill bottles.

Housing 2-4.instar communally may save time during feeding/maintainence, but there's risk of cannabalism.

It all boils down to your own preference. If there's specific questions, feel free to ask.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 9:08 am

Thank you m8, itīs going to be great with a new species!
Good reading too, very usefull.

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 9:16 am

Hey GS

I ordered a bunch of boxes for the babies, ive heard the part about cannibalisme before, and i dont wanna take any chances with my new ones.
But if i want an communal setup, when the young ones are getting bigger, how many could i place in a 45x45x45? I guess the 30x30x30 would be a bit to small maybe(?) If they like to climbe, then 30 is on the short side, i think.

Well, any good pointers would be great. You can allways read alot of info on the web, but some of the small things might fall through!

And thanks
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/20/2012, 1:50 pm

For a 45cm cube enclosure,

In terms of housing, I could house 8-10 adults communally.

Ideal adult ratio: 2.6.0 or 3.7.0

Or 0.0.20 specimens of 4-5.instar sub adults.

Substrate: 3-5cm of coco fibre/peat substrate and maintain half of the surface area slightly moist at all times

Water: Provide at least two different location for a shallow drinking bottle cap.

Food: Provide plenty of food, recommended B.lateralis roaches

If you are to use 30cm cube, simply reduce the communal ratio accordingly.

Yes, they love to climb, hence provide inclined bark pieces and some of these bark pieces may be stacked horizontally as well.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 10:16 am

Awesome, thanks again GS..
Great pointers for me, now i will definitely get the 45 tank.
I can imagine how great a communal tank with these beautiful Jacksonis will look!

The roaches, might be a small problem where i live. The place i normaly pick up food for my H. Laoticus, only sells grasshoppers and crickets(I only use cricks).
If i can get some roaches, does it have to be that specific one? - And, will breeding roaches smell as bad os these damn cricks does? I dont want to breed cricks, because of the horrible smell.. but here they cost about 11 us dollars for 100 cricks. And they dont really last that long, especially not now that i got 50 scorps, and a new brood coming soon too.


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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 12:07 pm

Roaches are better than crickets in every way. They dont die easily, they dont smell(if you keep them clean), they are easy to breed and they are much more nutritious. You can feed any roach but some are easier to work with like Blatta lateralis and others are awful to work with like Pallid roaches which can climb unlike B. lateralis.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 12:10 pm

+1 to shadowfoot.


B. lateralis are good feeder roaches because they do not smell, there's no damn chirping, they do not burrow, are not prone to climbing, are more nutritious than crickets, and they breed readily.

Many people use B. dubia roaches, they get larger (which may or may not be desirable) and have the same advantages as the above roaches with the exception that they will burrow into substrate.

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 12:24 pm

Thanks Shadowfoot!
After some research i think it might be possible to buy Dubiaīs and Blaberus cranifer, an hour from where i live..
Dont know if they would be any good?
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 12:25 pm

Thanks to you too Scorpion, again Smile
Could just take them for prey before they get too big then!
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 2:12 pm

KLN1988 wrote:
Thanks Shadowfoot!
After some research i think it might be possible to buy Dubiaīs and Blaberus cranifer, an hour from where i live..
Dont know if they would be any good?

Dubias are nice feeder roaches but I have never worked with Blaberus cranifer.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 2:23 pm

Apparently the B. Cranifer can be bought several places her in DK, they are known as skullroaches here.
I will try to buy some Dubias when i get the chance. Im tired og using stinky cricks.. So is my girlfriend, especially when they get loose in the apartment - HER apartment Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 5:27 pm

B. craniifer are fine as feeders, although they are somewhat more expensive than other species. (At least in the U.S.) Blaberus discoidalis is a similar species and it is usually less expensive.

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/21/2012, 8:12 pm

Congrats on the new Jacksoni great lil scorp...next will be the Gigas Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 12:36 am

KLN1988 wrote:
Awesome, thanks again GS..
Great pointers for me, now i will definitely get the 45 tank.
I can imagine how great a communal tank with these beautiful Jacksonis will look!

The roaches, might be a small problem where i live. The place i normaly pick up food for my H. Laoticus, only sells grasshoppers and crickets(I only use cricks).
If i can get some roaches, does it have to be that specific one? - And, will breeding roaches smell as bad os these damn cricks does? I dont want to breed cricks, because of the horrible smell.. but here they cost about 11 us dollars for 100 cricks. And they dont really last that long, especially not now that i got 50 scorps, and a new brood coming soon too.

50 and more scorps to come... thats a pretty good indicator that you should be planning for a long term "feeding plan".
Not to worry if you can't get B.lateralis, Dubias are fine too. The main concern is getting a steady supply of farm-bred feeders. It helps you to save cost and effort down the store to replenish crickets.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 10:26 am

buddylee79 - Thanks alot dude! Smile

Haha Very Happy yeah, they could well end up in a tank here Smile They are pretty!
But the next scorp i will try to hunt down is a O. Innesi or L. mucronatus. Im so in love with the Innesis! But its hard to find other scorps than Pandinus and Heterometrus here..

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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 10:37 am

GS -

Its definitely about time. I will start searching for some roach breeding info now!
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 10:56 am

What are the laws on shipping inverts into Denmark? Maybe you can order some from another European country?
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 11:07 am

KLN1988 wrote:
GS -

Its definitely about time. I will start searching for some roach breeding info now!

roaches are pretty much the easiest thing to breed....warm(75f-85f) higher temps faster breeding, Humid, 75%ish with some random sprays, food is pretty much anything but I prefer to feed fresh and "healthy" they are my pets food after all. and they love dark... they are cockroaches after all....one tough critter

disclamer...some roaches require conditions not as described above...dubia were in mind Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 11:14 am

The Danish postal service does not allow shipping of live animals i think. And if they got through the customs, they will die from the bad handeling of mail and packages!
I think its too much of an gamble, they are expensive! and i wouldnt like to be the cause of them to die..
Next summer i might go on a eurotrip in car with a friend, i threatened him with, that i would take a bunch of scorps home with me then Smile
If we go, i will do it i guess.
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 11:15 am

Buddylee79-

I will get the Dubias Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 11:39 am

I think you will be happy and successful with them..
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 11:48 am

thank you Buddy Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New - B. Jacksoni   8/22/2012, 2:29 pm

The mailman just came with a package Very Happy Homes for my Jacksoni slings!
40x1,3L boxes for the slings.
2x5L boxes for temporary/emergency homes for the grownups.
10L of soil and coconut hummus.









Beautiful female, who should be gravid Smile

-Theres a couple of hours drilling work now!





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