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PostSubject: desert species question   8/7/2012, 11:11 pm

im not to familiar with different desert species of scorpions, i just ordered a dune scorpion from ken the bug guy, over night shipping, it will be here tomorow....... and im starting to look for another desert species to get, i know the dune scorpions venom is a 2 on a 1-5 scale... now im looking for a desert species that has a 3 venom potency....i was going to get a A. Australis, but there venom is a 5 , so im looking for one thats a 3. does any one have any suggestions ???? i dont want a scorpion that is small when its fully grown, im looking for one thats atleast 3.5 inches when fully grown.
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/7/2012, 11:18 pm

oh yeah i forgot to say something, im not looking for a bark scorpion.... im looking for a ground-dweller.....
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 12:06 am

I'd go for the available Hottentotta on the market. I'm not really familiar with the 1-5 scale as it merely serves as an almost arbitrary reference, but I'm guessing most Hottentotta, with the exception of tamulus, range around a 3-4 on that scale. Maybe purchase of scorpions based on their adaptive traits rather than a 1-5 venom scale collective would serve as a better way to organize your collection as well as map your future purchases. Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 1:21 am

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I'd go for the available Hottentotta on the market. I'm not really familiar with the 1-5 scale as it merely serves as an almost arbitrary reference, but I'm guessing most Hottentotta, with the exception of tamulus, range around a 3-4 on that scale. Maybe purchase of scorpions based on their adaptive traits rather than a 1-5 venom scale collective would serve as a better way to organize your collection as well as map your future purchases. Good luck!
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Hadrurus and Ophistothalmus species are also nice. (Although, they do like to burrow.) Smile

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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 12:21 pm

alright cool thanks im going to look into them i found a list of that species online im looking at them now, yeah i just didnt wanna go from something with weak venom to something thats deadly, so somthing in between Very Happy thanks
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 1:06 pm

All the scorps listed are good choices. You can also go for Scorpio maurus.
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 5:41 pm

You might also consider Parabuthus liosoma. Adult males average around 3 inches, females around 4 inches. LD50 toxicity is 5.0 mg/kg (3 on your 1-5 scale)--won't kill you, unless you're allergic, but will definitely ruin your day or two. Desert dwelling opportunistic burrower.

Scorpio maurus are on the small side; adults average 2-3 inches. S. maurus, Hadrurus sp. and Opisthophthalmus sp. are obligate burrowers requiring deep packed substrate that will hold burrows and tunnels. Expect to spend a couple of weeks setting up a proper enclosure for them, e.g., drying the substrate. And expect it to be quite heavy when completed.

Some species of Hottentotta are parthenogenetic, so you'll end up with offspring whether you want them or not.
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 5:58 pm

Parabuthus liosoma could also work, but they are quite venomous.
I dont know where you live, but if you can find them, get some of the Uroplectes spp. They are on the small side, but they are great display scorps and they are not that venomous. The best species to get are U. olivaceus, U. carinatus, U. triangulifer or U. fischeri. They also have some great patterns and colours.
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 6:30 pm

I'm guessing from the OPs other post, because they ordered from Ken the bug guy they're in the US.

It also looks like their new 'desert scorpion' is going to be an A. amoreuxi. It does meet most of the criteria at least, with the exception of the venom bit lol.
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PostSubject: Re: desert species question   8/8/2012, 6:55 pm

yeah i didnt expect the new scorpion i ordered to be dead..... my plan was to get the dune scorpion and order another desert species next week, but i ordered one today becuase i wanted the scorpions to be here by friday....so i got the only desert species i was familiar with, the androctonus.... a little bit more venomous then what i was looking for. but thanks alot guys for the help Very Happy
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