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PostSubject: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 12:23 am

A lot of my early instar 2-3I desert species are kept in small deli containers on a sand/coco fiber mix, but I'm very adamant about not giving the youngsters a hide until I move them into a much larger container. I've never had a molt issue so I'm wondering, how do you guys feel about this as scorp enthusiasts? They sometimes will burrow, sometimes won't.

Are hides for youngsters ALWAYS necessary?
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 12:54 am

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A lot of my early instar 2-3I desert species are kept in small deli containers on a sand/coco fiber mix, but I'm very adamant about not giving the youngsters a hide until I move them into a much larger container. I've never had a molt issue so I'm wondering, how do you guys feel about this as scorp enthusiasts? They sometimes will burrow, sometimes won't.

Are hides for youngsters ALWAYS necessary?
If kept in a darkish quiet spot it shouldn't matter and if you are having success then no worrys.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 2:15 am

I say don't have an aneurysm over the husbandry of others. you would probably die if you saw the fact that all my 2i H. judaicus are on a sand mix with gelled water for a water source in their own bead containers in a 20 long on top of a blanket heating pad. it works for me just fine. like Scott said, if there is success then there is nothing to worry about. there are suggested methods and depending on the species I follow said methods but I'm not gonna rant about those who don't because ranting is not going to help the hobby
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 2:42 am

If you're worried about stressing them, as Scott said, a dark quiet place should work just as well.

I think it's only really important with barks that need it to molt from.

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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 3:15 am

the bark for bark scorps is a given but the rest is really up to the keeper. if they have success keeping their i2+ on a substrate then more power to them. as I said in the thread about feeding mice "...in the wild..." there's no paper towels and 50 dram vials to crawl into. it's not a matter of ethics if it works. now if I had something like C. celebensis, S. donensis or other small scorps that take slightly higher humidity levels that are at i2...I can assure you they would be housed in 1-2oz serving cups with moist tissue until they proved to be ready to get a substrate - then they would end up housed in the same type of containers as my H. judaicus.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 11:20 am

i will be obtaining some C.Celebensis on thursday. i realize that they need high humidity levels. for 2I, do you recommend moist substrate or paper towel routine?
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 11:47 am

jmoran1097 wrote:
i will be obtaining some C.Celebensis on thursday. i realize that they need high humidity levels. for 2I, do you recommend moist substrate or paper towel routine?

are you getting them from Thiscordia? apparently he posted them yesterday eve and they were gone in 3hrs - before I can put in an order.
I shall refer you to my previous post:
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now if I had something like C. celebensis, S. donensis or other small scorps that take slightly higher humidity levels that are at i2...I can assure you they would be housed in 1-2oz serving cups with moist tissue until they proved to be ready to get a substrate
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 12:20 pm

i bought the guy out haha
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 12:22 pm

..:SHAKES FIST IN A RABID MANNER:..

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you do realize how small they are right?
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 1:49 pm

sure do. I ordered two, but I'm sure there will be more coming in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 4:49 pm

Try making only half the substrate moist and dividing it with some cork bark. The scorp can choose where to go for humidity.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 5:00 pm

~Abyss~ wrote:
Try making only half the substrate moist and dividing it with some cork bark. The scorp can choose where to go for humidity.

wayne did an awesome SOTM last May about Chaerilus celebensis and although he has 2 threads about raising early instar scorps and his methods - he adds another method on this species

http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16414&st=0&gopid=187202&
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/27/2008, 5:50 pm

i was actually reading this yesterday and it couldn't have come at a better time.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/28/2008, 1:11 am

jmoran1097 wrote:
i will be obtaining some C.Celebensis on thursday. i realize that they need high humidity levels. for 2I, do you recommend moist substrate or paper towel routine?
The babys on these 2 scorpions are probably the parents of your scorpions that are coming. They were born here at my house Very Happy


and a baby next to its food (peice of 1/4 inch mealworm)
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/29/2008, 11:58 am

jmoran1097 wrote:
i will be obtaining some C.Celebensis on thursday. i realize that they need high humidity levels. for 2I, do you recommend moist substrate or paper towel routine?

How much did you pay for each of them? I'm trying to get my hands on some.
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PostSubject: Re: For early instar scorps, here is a bothersome question...   5/29/2008, 1:42 pm

Thiscordia aka raul. His name is highlighted "Thiscordia" because he's a certified ScorpionForum dealer. Look under the BREEDER group to contact him.
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