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PostSubject: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/11/2012, 10:56 pm

hi...
i can't english.. understanding just a few..
um...question
size middle Androctonus bicolor
a cage for insects size Androctonus bicolor
in stone? nomadism?? be at a loss which to choose.
breeding is when? spring? summer? autumn??
a period pregnancy?? month??
can't english sorry

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#1. full size 44*13.5*14 ok???


#2. a male a breeding farm size 22*13.5*14


#3. a female a breeding farm size 22*13.5*14


#4. a male


#5. a female

no breeding yet


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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/11/2012, 11:18 pm

Try this, it's probably the best desert care sheet available.

http://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/t7653-raising-desert-scorpions
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PostSubject: Androctonus bicolor question   2/15/2012, 12:27 am

7day in my house Androctonus bicolor. but no feed take. temperature 27~32C a breeding farm. wander about continuation. what problem?? help me.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 1:21 am

chulminJ00 wrote:
7day in my house Androctonus bicolor. but no feed take. temperature 27~32C a breeding farm. wander about continuation. what problem?? help me.

Hi Chulmin,

Temperature 27-32C is good. You are keeping it right.

Tank used can be kritter tank or glass tank for adults of about 7cm length or you may use deli-containers for sub-adults/ slings of less than 5cm in length.
Important thing is that you can secure the scorpion well so that it will NOT escape.

Minimum tank size for an adult Androctonus bicolor (size about 7cm) i'll recommend to be 2.5 gallon.

Fill it with sand of minimum 4cm depth and place some flat stones or bark pieces on the sand as shelter.

Breeding can happen all year round.

Pregnancy period is about 9-12 months estimated.
I have some females popping soon and i will share about the exact statistic.

As for refusing food or not eating for 7 days, it is not necessarily a problem to be worried about.

In some cases scorpions can go without food for months. Can you post some pictures of your scorpion and the tank that you are keeping it?

Not sure if you have click on the following link for more reading. Let me know if you still have question:
How to raise desert scorpions

tfleming wrote:
Try this, it's probably the best desert care sheet available.
Thanks for the kind comments bro Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 3:28 am


new member me .

address picture Your e-mell send OK?

here an answer .
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 4:15 am

Sure, i can help you post it up to gather some opinions here from the friendly forum'ers here Smile

Send your pictures to the email below:

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 4:43 am

thank you.

picture , I sent an e-mail.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 6:54 am

Hi chulminJ00,

Updated your pictures at your 1st post in this thread.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/15/2012, 7:36 am

The size of your breeding farms is okay. Not to worry.

As for the top cover, make more small holes in the cover so that more air can go in.

Make sure the cover is well secured so that the scorpions cannot escape.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/16/2012, 1:27 am

thank you possibly ecdysis 5 picture ??? I don't know for certain . What do you think about that picture?
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/16/2012, 8:16 am

Picture #5 female does not seems to be nearing a ecdysis but we need to confirm is she is an adult.

She might be either very well fed or gravid (if she's an adult female and has been housed together with the male before). If she is the same female in picture #1, she might be an adult female.

To know for sure, are you able to take a top view picture of her beside a ruler?


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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/16/2012, 10:31 am

um.... as far as I know size middle .

the cardboard top of a kola bottle.

hite bottle size #3 picture .

compare understanding??
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/16/2012, 3:43 pm

My 7.instar Androctonus bicolor female has the following measurement (estimated):

Total length: 7cm
Body size alone (without tail length): 3.8cm

For your reference.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/16/2012, 11:10 pm

um....OK. #4 picture body size 2.7cm. #5 picture body size 2.6~7cm. but scorpion body abnormality. scorpion body change color white. and... morning wake up dig up the sand a breeding farm. sand mountain be made. what problem??
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/20/2012, 9:44 pm

Picture #4 should be a male.
And for my 7.instar adult male, body size alone is around 2.9cm, full length including tail about 6cm.

#5 should be a female.
Referencing to one of my 7.instar adult female (heavily bloated and gravid), body size alone is around 3.8cm, full length including tail about 7cm.

Since your #5 female body size is about 2.6cm, she might have one more moult to go or she may be just be a smaller adult female.

The above are sexed based on tail to body ratio, do a pectine tooth count to be sure.

Nothing to worry about sand mountain being made too.. if that is literally what you mean and as i have imagined Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/21/2012, 4:15 am

GS, do you have a record of body size for 5i male?

Maybe I should try and measure my aeneas morph to get the size recorded as well. AFAIK, they're smaller than "normal" A.b's
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/21/2012, 11:05 am

Yes, i have.

1.0 Androctonus bicolor 5.instar
Body length: 1.9cm
Tail length: 1.8cm
Full length: 3.7cm
Condition when measurement was taken: Very obese and in pre-moult to 6.instar

Will publish a full documented list once my females pops.
Meanwhile let me know if you mean any stats. I'll help if i can Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/21/2012, 11:12 am

Thanks bro. I'll try to take a measurement of mine aswell (4i unsexed and 5i male) both are getting close to premolt.

How do you measure these guys anyway? They're pretty "jumpy" Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/21/2012, 11:24 am

Unless i have a dead specimen to measure on a ruler, i can't be 100% accurate.

For measurement of life specimen, i'll estimate by placing a ruler near them.

Sample below:



When the telson is full stetched, it should hit the 0 mark, hence i'll estimate it's total length to be 1.8cm and body length to be 7.5mm Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/22/2012, 9:18 pm

um...



2cm 2.5cm 3.cm paper cut comparison result.

body size 2.6~7 adult ? #4 picture.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/22/2012, 9:49 pm

Hi Chulmin,

I'm not sure if i am getting your question correctly.

#4 picture you posted, should be an adult male.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/23/2012, 3:53 am

Chulmin bro, where are you from/what language do you speak?
Maybe someone in the forum could help you getting your messages through more clearly.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/24/2012, 7:48 am

korea people .
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/24/2012, 8:03 am

4번사진 전갈의 몸통크기가 2.6~2.7cm인데 그럼 성체로 봐야하는지 모르겠다. 그리고 5번째 사진의 여자전갈이 2.6cm인데 지금 등이 벌어져있고 색이 조금씩 변해가고있는데 그럼 탈피하는걸로 봐야하겠는가?? 탈피를 하면 교미를 시켜도 되는지 알려달라.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus bicolor help question .   2/24/2012, 9:28 am

chulminJ00 wrote:
4번사진 전갈의 몸통크기가 2.6~2.7cm인데 그럼 성체로 봐야하는지 모르겠다. 그리고 5번째 사진의 여자전갈이 2.6cm인데 지금 등이 벌어져있고 색이 조금씩 변해가고있는데 그럼 탈피하는걸로 봐야하겠는가?? 탈피를 하면 교미를 시켜도 되는지 알려달라.

After google translator:

chulminJ00 wrote:
4 beonsajin scorpion's body size is 2.6 ~ 2.7cm to see so I do not know what to adulthood.
And the fifth woman in the photo and now grows the scorpion is 2.6cm and slightly changing the color,
which he would then have to break revisiting?
Please inform us if you are makethem molting and mating.

My reply:

For both sex male and female, they can get matured at 7.instar.
The fourth picture you posted should be an 7.instar adult male.

The fifth picture has slight changing of color to pale white could be a sign to moulting, she may be a 6.instar female or a small 7.instar adult female.

You can actually put them together to see if they will mate.
As long as they are well fed, provided with 2 or more hides, it should not be a problem.
You can keep a close watch on them just to be sure.

Be careful and use tongs to deal with them Smile


After google translator:

남성과 여성 섹스를 위해서라면, 그들은 7.instar에서 성숙받을 수 있습니다.
당신이 게시한 번째 사진은 7.instar 성인 남성이어야합니다.

다섯 번째 사진이 moulting에 로그인 될 수 창백한 흰색으로 색상의 변화 약간있다, 그녀는 6.instar의 여성이나 소규모 7.instar 성인 여성이 될 수 있습니다.

당신은 실제로 그들이 짝짓기 것입니다 있는지 확인하기 위해 그들을 함께 넣을 수 있습니다.
오랫동안 잘 먹이로하기 때문에, 2 개 이상의 가죽과 함께 제공로서, 그것은 문제가 아니다.
그냥 확인을해야 그들에게 가까운 시계를 유지할 수 있습니다.

조심하고 그들과 Smile을 처리하기 위해 집게를 사용하여

study Goggle translator study

Am trying my best to help, if any guys able to chip in, please do so Smile
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