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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 4:34 am | |
| Happiness at home again... my H. caboverdensis female finally popped last night - Pics from yesterday, 10-15 hours before popping:
#1 #2
- This morning:
Is that unfertilized eggs I'm seeing? #1 #2
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**GS** Leiurus
Number of posts : 2629 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2010-09-06
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 5:43 am | |
| Nice capture bud! Especially #1 Seems like some were undeveloped embryos but it won't be long before she start popping again | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 6:37 am | |
| Thanks bro. #1 with or without brood? Apparently I messed up the numbering a bit.
With brood were taken in 90% darkness with camera's own flash, so not too bad. | |
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Jay SCORPIONMOD
Number of posts : 1250 Age : 35 Location : England Registration date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 6:47 am | |
| Congrats mate! Looks like still a decent brood size in spite of the undeveloped ones. Broods are like buses, you wait ages for one and then they all come along at once | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 6:48 am | |
| Thanks mate! - JamieLawrence wrote:
- Broods are like buses, you wait ages for one and then they all come along at once
Hahaha, that's a good one! | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:04 am | |
| Guys,
would 75ml sterile containers (diameter: bottom 35mm/top 50mm; height:70mm) be too small for housing 2i Hottentottas or would they do better in 250ml delicups (diameter: 80mm bottom/100mm top; height: 50mm)?
Sand and coco would be the best substrate for the young? Or just dry coco? | |
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**GS** Leiurus
Number of posts : 2629 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2010-09-06
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:17 am | |
| If you are talking about minimum requirement in terms of enclosure size, 75ml sterile containers (diameter: bottom 35mm/top 50mm; height:70mm) - Can raise 2.instar, probably have to rehouse once they are 3.instar - Good restricted floor space for power feeding 250ml delicups (diameter: 80mm bottom/100mm top; height: 50mm) - Sufficient to raise up a single specimen up to full adult - Enough space to place a small capful of water and a small hide If you have the space allowance in your room/ invert shelve, i would go for 250ml, save the hassle of upgrading their homes in less then 25 days (estimated) when they will molt to 3.instar
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:21 am | |
| - GS wrote:
- If you are talking about minimum requirement in terms of enclosure size,
75ml sterile containers (diameter: bottom 35mm/top 50mm; height:70mm) - Can raise 2.instar, probably have to rehouse once they are 3.instar - Good restricted floor space for power feeding
250ml delicups (diameter: 80mm bottom/100mm top; height: 50mm) - Sufficient to raise up to full adult - able to place a small capful of water
If you have the space, i would go for 250ml, save the hassle of upgrading their homes in less then 25 days (estimated)..
Thanks buddy. Yeah, space is always an issue, but I think I'll go for the delis anyway. Saves me from going to the pharmacy anyway (just got 100 delis when the swammerdami popped). | |
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**GS** Leiurus
Number of posts : 2629 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2010-09-06
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:30 am | |
| If space is the issue then i'll recommend you to get tackle boxes: - Click here to view:
- Fixed partitions - Each partition at 6cm length x 3cm width x 4cm height - Able to house up to 5.instar
- Click here to view:
- Removable partitions - Each partition at 5cm length x 4cm width x 4cm height - Able to combine two partition into a larger one to nurture a breeder - Note that removable partitions are not good for 2.instar
Each of these tackboxes has multiple air vents on top of each partitions. In addition, i had the four corners of the tackle box's base secured with a small piece of anti-slip rubber. So that when the tackboxes are stacked together, there will be gaps in between for air ventilation. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:35 am | |
| I've tried that for some 2i's. Easy, but didn't like it that much.. I prefer separate boxes. The brood isn't so huge anyway that it will not make a big difference on top of the 30-40 delis I have set up at the moment | |
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**GS** Leiurus
Number of posts : 2629 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2010-09-06
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:37 am | |
| Trust me.. you won't be saying "there are just that many of them" very soon... | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:44 am | |
| Hahaha! you're right, specially when spring will bring some new species along aswell. Soon I am moving all inverts out of the living room though. Got a spare 12-14 sq.m. guest bedroom/office kind of room where they'll go. Only the reptiles will stay in their current places.
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Jay SCORPIONMOD
Number of posts : 1250 Age : 35 Location : England Registration date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 7:50 am | |
| Do I sense the start of a new scorpion room Sweet! | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 8:02 am | |
| That's the plan They're nice for watching at the living room, but they really do get too stressed. TV, dogs, walking around, light on & off, etc. Thinking of making some of those heated racks I showed the other day. | |
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Envyizm Breeder
Number of posts : 238 Age : 39 Location : Columbus Ohio Registration date : 2010-05-24
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/9/2012, 11:10 pm | |
| Congrats on the brood! This species has been one of my full time residents in my collection for some time. I've always been a fan of the miracle that is parthenogenesis, keeping parthenogenic Tityus and Liocheles, but Hottentotta is always the first that comes to mind in terms of enjoyment. I currently have a free-birthing group of this species in a 10 gallon with plenty of hiding space. You'd be surprised at how social they are even with babies on their back. Between this species and Hottentotta judaicus, these have made the Hottentotta genus by far my favorite genus as a collective. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/12/2012, 12:02 pm | |
| Thanks Envyizm! Hottentotta are definitely becoming my favourite genus as well.
Mine could be 2i already, they seem more defined like body shape since yesterday, and they are moving around mum's back a lot. I haven't seen any traces of exuvia though. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/13/2012, 4:13 am | |
| I took a closer look last night. I confirm they have indeed molted, all molt skins were on the bottom of the enclosure, all together like a small "molt-mat".
So this makes just 3 days from 1i to 2i. Quite a surprise, I was expecting something around 4-5 days.
I guess it won't take long until they come down and start wandering around. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/14/2012, 3:46 am | |
| Update: They have started getting on and off mom's back as of yesterday morning. Last night about half of 'em were down. But this morning all were back up. Apparently she was hungry too. She've found a mealie wandering around and was eating. Pic update too. This is from sunday evening, already with 2i's. | |
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Jay SCORPIONMOD
Number of posts : 1250 Age : 35 Location : England Registration date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/14/2012, 8:25 am | |
| Sweeet! Got a count on those bad boys yet? | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/14/2012, 8:31 am | |
| Not yet. Look like 10+ though. Didn't want to disturb her too much. She gets psycho when I peek in there Probably 2-3 days max until they're all down. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/15/2012, 3:51 am | |
| Another update - couple left on her back:
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Ludedor24 Babycurus
Number of posts : 280 Age : 37 Registration date : 2011-10-02
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/15/2012, 7:41 am | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 2/15/2012, 4:05 pm | |
| Thanks Ludedor
And... Last significant update from me.. Babies are off mums back now. Brood ended up being twice as big than what I expected, considering there were few undeveloped embryos too.
Final count: 22 | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 3/3/2012, 3:34 am | |
| Little update.. | |
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DolbyR Leiurus
Number of posts : 2097 Age : 42 Location : facebook.com/ScorpionArchives Registration date : 2011-01-03
| Subject: Re: H. caboverdensis babies 3/25/2012, 4:01 am | |
| Timestamp:
The cabos have started molting to 3i. 6 out of 22 have turned 3i between thursday and saturday (don't know the exact dates though)
Edit: Second batch (4 scorpions) turned 3i yesterday (Monday 26.03). For my records, I will consider the molt date for the first 6 as Saturday 24.03.
Edit2: (Timestamp: 01/04)
2 3i found dead. Both were from the first ones to molt. | |
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