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PostSubject: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 8:38 pm

I found this guy in my backyard. I thought it was a Gertchi morph. Any one for sure.

-Dustin

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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 8:56 pm

ID please, Gertchi? 306331289_68000e9564
C.Vittatus?
There's a light morph
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 9:15 pm

sort of looks like that but we don't have C. Vittatus.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 9:41 pm

My money's on Gertschi.

The biggest difference between C. sculpticauda* "Gertschi" and C. vittatus has something to do with the coloration surrounding the eyes. So, look closely at the patterning of the carapace and you should be able to tell.

*Portmanteau of exilicauda and sculpturatus because taxonomy revisions make me go Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 9:51 pm

post a couple more pix, like a top view and facing view
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 10:06 pm

I'll have to take a couple more.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/16/2008, 10:09 pm

Athlon2k2 wrote:
I'll have to take a couple more.

cool
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 1:10 am

{this is my reply from Venomlist}

I'm 99.999% certain it's the C. exilsculp gertchi

vitti has the triangle that looks like a burglar mask

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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 2:38 am

I think you should send that one with my shipment....lol. Try and find me some of those ones man!!! I will make it worth your while!
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 2:51 am

Robert J wrote:
I think you should send that one with my shipment....lol. Try and find me some of those ones man!!! I will make it worth your while!

I'm with Robert on that one, I'll take a few if you find more too
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 3:48 pm

ooh what a lovely find!

xxxxx
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 7:32 pm

thats lookin pretty gertchi. im very surprised you found it in phoenix. if you want to find more, i can take you to some great spots and then we can do a good side by side analysis. it is possible that it is an abbarent pattern of the nominate form. i have seen individuals within a nominate population with slight markings like that, but never that bold. nice looking animal.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 10:32 pm

wow, turns out i actually do have 8 of these already and will be getting a few more this week
awesome
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 10:42 pm

redknee wrote:
wow, turns out i actually do have 8 of these already and will be getting a few more this week
awesome

you talking about the Gertchis or the Vittis I'm sending?
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/17/2008, 11:30 pm

talking about the gertchi bro

i know they are vitts i getting from ya
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 12:48 am

yeah, those Gertchis are rad. I haven't been able to get any myself though. just have my ExiliSculps
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 4:32 pm

LOL, ExiliSculps I like that..Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 4:36 pm

yeah, haha
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:16 pm

~Abyss~ wrote:
LOL, ExiliSculps I like that..Very Happy

You're welcome. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:28 pm

I only have only run into 2 out of the 15 I have caught in my back yard. Maybe I can start breeding them and you guys will have the hook up.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:30 pm

IHeartMantids wrote:
~Abyss~ wrote:
LOL, ExiliSculps I like that..Very Happy

You're welcome. What a Face
Damn taxanomy changes give me headaches. Me and Robert were having a friendly debate over this, this past weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:32 pm

I hate taxa debates like the one over exilicauda and sculpturatus
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:34 pm

Well it eventually build up to a point where we were trying to define species and breeds. It got pretty stupid after a while LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:38 pm

we had sculp defined as exili since Herbert Stahnke came up with the anti-venom and then all of a sudden we decided to jump back and forth with the name until 2004
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PostSubject: Re: ID please, Gertchi?   ID please, Gertchi? Empty3/18/2008, 5:52 pm

Eh, to me it's just Centroide sp. Untill they can correctly place that scorpion,
-Eddy
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