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PostSubject: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 2:46 am

I bought Charles about 3 weeks ago from Petco. Hes really fun to watch and play with Basketball . I learned quite a bit just reading some of these threads on here study . Love forums.

Heres my set up:

1. 50 Gal Tank I got for free.
2. False bottom 2 inch's of big pond rocks
3. 100% Coco Fiber Substrate is about 7 inch's deep
4. Temps run from 80C (Heat Pad Side) 85C (Red Heat Lamp Side *75w)
5. Humidity is about 85-90
6. I also bought a 75w heat emitter that will replace the red heat lamp.


Few problems Ive had so far and how I fixed them:
1. Humidity, which i fixed with $4.00 bag of rocks from home depot to make the false bottom.
2. Crickets laying eggs in the tank, just started cutting off their "laying egg stick?" scratch As well as pushing them into his burrow So he eats them up right away.
3. Wanting to see him run around. All I do now is stay up and wait for him to come up.

Problems I still have:
1. A lamp that can use a Ceramic bulb. I bought the bulb and my cheap $10.00 lamp says not to be used with a Ceramic bulb. So I need A way to mount it so that it wont burn Charles, because his substrate is near the top of the tank.. 5 inch's from the top.
2. I don't know if I am over feeding him or not. He seems to be always hungry. I put some rolly-polly (sowbug, pillbug) in the tank and hes always mashing them up and eating them. So I get him more crickets.. I haven't looked at his Stinger cooler yet but Im thinking is a white and gray color. One night i gave him 6 crickets and he ate them all in one night. affraid

Ill start posting videos and pictures of Charles As I go, maybe get him a little mate for the big tank. Razz

I would love for any hlep or comments or feedback about my setup
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 5:02 am

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I bought Charles about 3 weeks ago from Petco. Hes really fun to watch and play with Basketball . I learned quite a bit just reading some of these threads on here study . Love forums.

Heres my set up:

4. Temps run from 80C (Heat Pad Side) 85C (Red Heat Lamp Side *75w)

Problems I still have:
1. A lamp that can use a Ceramic bulb. I bought the bulb and my cheap $10.00 lamp says not to be used with a Ceramic bulb. So I need A way to mount it so that it wont burn Charles, because his substrate is near the top of the tank.. 5 inch's from the top.

2. I don't know if I am over feeding him or not. He seems to be always hungry. I put some rolly-polly (sowbug, pillbug) in the tank and hes always mashing them up and eating them. So I get him more crickets.. I haven't looked at his Stinger cooler yet but Im thinking is a white and gray color. One night i gave him 6 crickets and he ate them all in one night. affraid

Ill start posting videos and pictures of Charles As I go, maybe get him a little mate for the big tank. Razz

I would love for any hlep or comments or feedback about my setup

Greeting and welcome to the borg (uhmmm board)

First thing I would change is the temps 80C is like 176F... lol!

any-who... petco should have a lamp housing that will handle the ceramic bulb, I bought all of my clamp style lamps from a chain pet store (petsmart) in the bulb section.

overfeeding... I have never had an emp overeat, but that's not to say they won't... try to space (sporadically) your feedings one week 2 crix next week 1... then wait 2 weeks and give him 4... something like that. Emperors (and most all scorps) can go extremely long periods with out eating so don't worry (I had my whole collection go on the average 3 months refusing food over the winter)

Can't wait for pics... a 50 gallon with enough substrate to be 5" from the top affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 8:34 am

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their "laying egg stick?" scratch

It's called an ovipositor. Very Happy

Not quite sure about the "greyish" telson -- but it sounds like he's immature. And as Thaedion said (he's an emp expert, by the way), it's hard for an emp to overeat. They just like to stuff themselves occasionally, and then they won't eat for months.

Oh, and welcome! What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 10:21 am

hmm sounds alright! maybe charles is a greedy one! i feed my emps 6 crix in 2 weeks!
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 11:32 am

My bad 80F - 85F Razz JAJA!

Next feeding Ill record his tank for you guys. So far he comes out every night around like 12-1am and taps on the glass running around adjusting his temp, looking for food. Ill start feeding him what I find around the house, because I can catch 2 crickets a week easy or a roach.

I also only been able to pick him up once. Ever other time he wants to attack my hand.. I go form a low approach from behind.. but he senses it and turns around pinching. I saw the video on here on ways to pick him up and thats the only way that worked. No way am I garbing his dang tail. Maybe I just need more practice. If his tail is up should i back off? As well as claws out? When could i tell if he is in "calm" mode?

Also, I looked at his stinger and its brown.. Not to sure have to check again. Is it the part that has the stinger or the part after? Cause I do see a little white after the brown. Hes Only about 3 inch's big and I hear they can get up to 8 inch's


Ill be sure to pick up a clamp lamp. Thanks For the feed back Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 12:26 pm

As far as handling goes, too much is stressful... but occasionally it's an amazing experience hehe. But try for getting the least stressful way out, have something flat and gently move it towards your scorp with your other hand flat behind it. That's my prefered method, and if it does get defensive, give it a few ticks to calm down a bit, if you keep going it will just get more and more offensive/defensive.

Is he the scorp in your picture?
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 1:55 pm

Scorps are usually more defensive when they're in their terrarium; it's easy to feel cornered. Once they're out they're usually much calmer.

Also, don't feed him WC prey -- they could be contaminated with pesticides or parasites.

The telson is the last segment of the body that bears the sting. It's brown in adults, and it sounds like you have an adult. The white you see is the intersegmental membrane. Since the anus is located directly behind the stinger there is usually a little more membrane to accommodate it.

Regarding size, it's usually measured from mouth to sting. It sounds like you didn't include the metasoma in your measurement.

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 3:16 pm

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As far as handling goes, too much is stressful... but occasionally it's an amazing experience hehe. But try for getting the least stressful way out, have something flat and gently move it towards your scorp with your other hand flat behind it. That's my prefered method, and if it does get defensive, give it a few ticks to calm down a bit, if you keep going it will just get more and more offensive/defensive.

Is he the scorp in your picture?

Whats a tick? You mean wait? So far hes not getting mad at me as long as I wait. Picked him up yesterday night when he was walking around at 1am. And yes thats Charles in the picture.

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Scorps are usually more defensive when they're in their terrarium; it's easy to feel cornered. Once they're out they're usually much calmer.

Also, don't feed him WC prey -- they could be contaminated with pesticides or parasites.

The telson is the last segment of the body that bears the sting. It's brown in adults, and it sounds like you have an adult. The white you see is the intersegmental membrane. Since the anus is located directly behind the stinger there is usually a little more membrane to accommodate it.

Regarding size, it's usually measured from mouth to sting. It sounds like you didn't include the metasoma in your measurement.


Well guys looks like i have an adult. IT is brown as brown can be. And Ill get to measuring him later tonight when hes out and about on his morning stroll. I'm sure hes about 6-7inchs since i didn't measure the tail.

Whats the best way to bread crickets? So I won't have to buy them as much.. Or Is it ok if they run around laying eggs around my 50g tank?

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/16/2008, 3:46 pm

Nice looking emp, and yeah a tick is just however long you feel is enough so he's not pissed, sounds like you got the idea Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/17/2008, 1:44 am

Try not to over handle him. A happy scorpion is an undisturbed scorpion who likes to spend most of his time in his burrow.

If you want to breed crickets you can buy their own little tank and let the females lay. You can in England *sure in other countries* buy a Kriter Keeper for crickets, its small, has two tubes to get adults out.
I dont know how you breed them but im just guessing allow females to lay, remove them into another tank *the feed to scorpion tank* and the little ones from the other will hatch, grow and you can allow females to lay, take out adults etc....but I dont know, I only buy them from the shop
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/17/2008, 10:09 pm

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Whats the best way to bread crickets?

Dip them in beaten eggs, then corn meal, then lightly fry them in canola oil. Razz

Just kidding. If you want to breed crickets, provide a large tank (such as a ten-gallon -- breeding feeders in your scorpion tank isn't a good idea) with some slightly moist substrate and LOTS of hiding places (such as stacked egg cartons).

Females will lay their eggs in the soil; these will develop and hatch in a few weeks. The ample hiding places I mentioned work well to cut down on cannibalism. Also provide fruits, veggies, and / or commercial cricket food. Water can be provided by "water gel" polymers or by routinely misting the enclosure.

I highly recommend breeding roaches, though; there are many species available and they are much easier to breed than crickets. Check out the feeder subforums if you have any other questions on breeding your own food. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/17/2008, 11:22 pm

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SafetyDang wrote:
Whats the best way to bread crickets?

Dip them in beaten eggs, then corn meal, then lightly fry them in canola oil. Razz

Just kidding. If you want to breed crickets, provide a large tank (such as a ten-gallon -- breeding feeders in your scorpion tank isn't a good idea) with some slightly moist substrate and LOTS of hiding places (such as stacked egg cartons).

Females will lay their eggs in the soil; these will develop and hatch in a few weeks. The ample hiding places I mentioned work well to cut down on cannibalism. Also provide fruits, veggies, and / or commercial cricket food. Water can be provided by "water gel" polymers or by routinely misting the enclosure.

I highly recommend breeding roaches, though; there are many species available and they are much easier to breed than crickets. Check out the feeder subforums if you have any other questions on breeding your own food. Smile

AHAH Ill post up a video of his tank tomorrow.. I should start spell checking before you reply to any of my post.

Seems happy enough, always in his little hole. One thing though.. why doesn't he dig everywhere.. how come its just a little whole. I want to see some under ground subways and stuff.

ANd i have seen one of those breeding boxes... maybe ill go pick one up. Thank you all


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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/17/2008, 11:29 pm

That was just a fun little joke about the spelling . . . you're not the first person to spell it that way on this forum. Very Happy

AS for the lack of digging, some scorps are just lazy. My pair of emperors used to dig a LOT, and now my male hardly ever digs.

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/18/2008, 2:54 am

My scorplings...well 3I have all dug burrows, my 2Is havent even bothered and mother scorpion, even though with the right substrate now hasnt even bothered! not even a gentle digging.
Sometimes they do or sometimes they are just happy with the hide they have provided for them

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 12:15 am

Pictures! Twisted Evil

This Is The 50 Gal Tank For Charles affraid


Hes a Pirate pirat


His Home


This is how its all set up. Water on the left, hut on the right burrow in the middle.


Heres My Water Filling Set Up. Caped With a Washer and Heavy Bolt.


Charles And His Burrow


Charles And His Burrow Again
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 2:01 am

Looks like you've got a great setup there!

You could probably fit another three or four in there. What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 4:58 am

beautiful pictures... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 8:39 am

Great set up, I bet that's one happy scorp!
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 10:02 am

thats a really cool setup you got there! charles is a lucky scorp! maybe hes a bit lonely........
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 3:23 pm

Well I guess i have to buy 3 more Emps huh Razz

I made some more burrows for him to hide in where the open space was, that and for the incoming scorpions Ill pick up next week. cheers

Till then Ill keep posting Updates =]

Sorry for all the red pictures.. they just look cool..


He was tapping the glass at around 3 AM so I took some pictures.



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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 4:32 pm

sometimes my scorp gets me up late 'cause she rattles her chela of the air vents. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/19/2008, 11:20 pm

Yeah . . . 'cause who needs sleep? Razz

(I'm in my fourth year of engineering school -- sleep is not high on my priorities.)

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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/20/2008, 9:06 am

I love sleep... but I am more than happy to set it aside, especially for SCORP-O-VISION
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/21/2008, 4:13 pm

AHAH indeed. Sleep is good but watching Charles hunt is much more exciting
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PostSubject: Re: Charles The Scorpion   5/22/2008, 2:02 am

New question/problem

bought a ceramic heat bulb, 75w? is it ok to plug into a regular lamp. I bought the lamp from petco. It was like 10 bucks + tax. Says it can take up to 150w type A.. but it also says don't use with ceramic bulbs... Just wondering why. seems to be doing its job fine.. I red everything it just doesn't say way.. it holds a high enough wattage. Whats the deal? Its not going to blow up on me is it?
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