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Pandinus


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PostSubject: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 7:39 am

I just got these scorpion please help identify, googling helped with more confusion scratch, this I'll explain later. Please also help with sexing.

There should be 3 pairs. 1 DOA Bang Head (seller commented nothing) Twisted Evil . Another one was still hiding, I'd feel bad to bring it to light.

Pictures are fresh, forgot to set the date.


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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 7:40 am

THey all look adult, female emps to me... but I wouldnt take that for granted without asking further.. I know ... about these giants.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 11:29 am

- The first has a red aculus
- The 2-4 all with black aculus which turn to greenish under the sun.

By googling :

- The first can be emperor and also H. longimanus and also spinifer etc etc
- The second can be spinifer and also longimanus etc etc

ouch ... have to wait 7 days till able posting external links
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 11:45 am

They all look like Heterometrus scorpions to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 3:35 pm

Streettrash wrote:
They all look like Heterometrus scorpions to me.

I agree. The chela look too elongated for them to be Pandinus. As for the species, I don't know. I don't think the ones with black telsons are spinifer or longimanus, due to the granulation on the chela. As for sexing them, better pics would help. If you want my opinion on their sex, they look like females to me. Good luck with them.

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/20/2011, 11:25 pm

I'll wait for few days bofore taking new pictures. The scorpions have been through too much, from a tour across java, moving to bigger apartments, decorating, and photo sessions. They might get an instant celebrity shock Very Happy

Seller told me the 1st is pandinus
2nd-4th are longimanus

Any other opinions ?
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/21/2011, 6:51 pm

Did you buy them as adults? I can't tell from the pictures, but if the scorp with the red telson has fine granulation on the chela it could be Heterometrus cyaneus. Also you may want to post this on arachnoboards. (If you have not done so already)

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/22/2011, 7:53 am

one of the three (2nd set) just died while drinking Sad
they spend 3 days on shipping.

Don't know if adult, mouth to tip of telson is about 4 inches.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/22/2011, 2:55 pm

I'm sorry for your loss. RIP How are you keeping them? There should be at least 4 inches of moist substrate, (I use eco earth substrate. You can buy it in a compressed brick at most pet stores) the temp should be around 80 F , and the humidity should be around 85%. Also there should NOT be a sponge in the water dish. If all of this is correct, then they should be fine. Are you keeping them communally? If so, make sure that there are several pices of bark (cork bark is best) for them to hide under. Also if you want to keep them communally, only keep the ones with black telsons communal.

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/23/2011, 7:10 am

The temp here 79-86 F, Humidity around 66% so i sprayed a bit water once a day. I put small corals on in water dish. And separate red telsons to blacks. For hidding bamboo, plastic pipe, and a quite big root of a tree that I keep. The only thing missing is the 4 inches of substrate, I only managed to put in a layer of soil (1 inch) and chopped dry palm leaves (1 to 5 inches). It was an emergency set-up.
The container was a non-clear material 10x10x15 plastic without light setup.

Just moved them to bigger non-clear material container with fake bottom and cocopeat.

I am also thinking to mix the scorp since I notice a male red telson while both of the black telson are female. What do you think ?
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/23/2011, 10:11 am

No. Mixing is probably not wise.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/23/2011, 8:20 pm

No don't mix them unless you find out they are the same species. You do not need anything in the water dish, other than a small stone, so the crickets don't drown. [They sometimes submerge themselves in the water. (This is normal, my emp stayed under water for 10 mins once) Also, have you posted this on arachnoboards? You may get more replies.

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie new scorp   Newbie new scorp Empty8/23/2011, 8:39 pm

Scorpion19981000 wrote:
No don't mix them unless you find out they are the same species. You do not need anything in the water dish, other than a small stone, so the crickets don't drown. [They sometimes submerge themselves in the water. (This is normal, my emp stayed under water for 10 mins once) Also, have you posted this on arachnoboards? You may get more replies.

This is the only forum I post about my pet scorpion, I think I'd be having trouble tracking posts with multiple forums

Thanks.
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