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PostSubject: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 4:44 am

i picked this guy up at Repticon in Atlanta. it was sold as a "yellow fat tail scorpion". the dealer only said it was from Tanzania. i think its an Androctonus sp. and from further north, (both venders who had them also had 'Death stalkers'). other opinions think maybe male. i have no idea, can anyone here help me out?


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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 5:22 am

Hi Gnat

Androctonus are 'fat tails'.. so you bought it for what it was advertised for. Most likely caught around Egypt or close too..

It doest look like and Androctonus australis, although it is very very yellow.
If it is an adult, you can check on size, it is a female.

As a reference, my adult female. Notice the tailshape and pinchershape which resembles yours very much.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 5:33 am

i bought it hoping it was a gravid female. it was the largest of a dozen or so labeled 'yellow fat tail' between 2 vendors. i dont care what it really is, im just curious. its an awesome scorp for my collection no matter what it is
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 5:39 am

Im positive its a female, about being gravid.. well, wait and see. Usually you will see small white circles on the side of it if it is. If you leave it alone and in good conditions, check back a few weeks later and see if you find white spots. It might not have them now, but it can have them later.

I believe (just own opinion) they can develop the embryos on demand. Sort of like, when the time is right.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 11:24 am

99% Androctonus australis tunisia morph
Looks female too.


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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 11:27 am

Isnt its tailtip too black and too thick to be amoreuxi?
Picture below is A. am.



You could be right, though it has strange colors...


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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 11:28 am

I know, slipped because of the light colored but forgot about tunisia.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 11:37 am

I doubted because of the coloration too..
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/10/2011, 12:22 pm

When were you at the repticon? I was there from 9-12 Saturday. I didn't see this guy, or I definitely would have grabbed him.. Which vendor had him? I got an LQ, and a Androctonus australis from the guy in the back left with the Mohawk, and a arizoninzus from the guy in the middle with all of the skeleton legged T's.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 3:08 am

i was there from 10 to around 330. the guy with the mohawk was Mike with Exotic Kingdom, he was one vendor with death stalkers and yellow fat tails, the other vendor was kind of in the middle, had a huge section of tables. it was the guy with netting over all the invert deli cups. hes the one i got the fat tail from. the guy i talked to and bought it from was a young guy in his 20s with short hair and 3 lip studs.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 4:20 am

Yeah, I probably saw you, just didn't know to say hey lol.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 6:27 am

pluto wrote:
Im positive its a female,
how are you sure? another forum states with certainty its male. im confused, maybe this enigma was best left unknown, either way it goes im stoked to have this guy in my collection
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 6:45 am

Its tail is way too narrow to be a male australis. That coupled with the fact its body is way too oval.. and its pinchers are not too big nor 'notched'. The gap between the finger and the base of the pincher is not as pronounced as it is with Androctonus mauritanicus, but it still is there.

Count the pectines and be sure, but I'm positive.

female 22-29 pectine teeth, male 30-38...
this is a male australis with the notched pinchers, fat tail and relatively small body.

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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 8:56 pm

I go by tail size as well if there's no pectine shot.
The others on arachnoboards are probably going off of bulbous chelae which in my opinion isn't a good way to sex andros, I would rather go with tail to body size but pectine is the 100% sure way to do it. If you want to be 100% sure put it into a clear plastic container and take a shot of it underneath and count the teeth.

That's either a really fat male or a normal female.
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/11/2011, 9:21 pm

whatever it is it gave me a fattail.! Very Happy
nice grab dude!
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/24/2011, 1:55 pm

shining wrote:
whatever it is it gave me a fattail.! Very Happy
nice grab dude!

+1

How much did you pay?
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/25/2011, 9:46 am

For best accuracy, it's still by pectine count.
Do it safely and you can get your answer in less then 10mins Smile
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   7/31/2011, 3:40 am

i paid $30 for it
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PostSubject: Re: yellow fat tail ID   8/1/2011, 11:47 pm

That is a beautiful Scorpion. Where was this place?
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