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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 6:37 am

So I have an emperor and we have made post on my Girlfriends account about him doing some funky positions and hes doing fine now got everything fixed! (I noticed one person on this page who had helped and just wanted to say THANK YOU!)

We are thinking of moving, so that means MORE ROOM!!! so I've been planning on getting a few more scorpions of varying species (got tanks and everything =D)

I'm trying to do research on all the different species but I'm having an issue... It seems every where I look all the scorpions are either misidentified and or only has bits and pieces of information on the scorpion (like genus, family, species, common names and all that jazz) IF they even have it up, and I'm sick of trying to go to 100 different websites to find 25% of the information if its even correct. And due to what I want to research I really need to know the Facts.

Could any of you help make a sheet with all the information( Area its located, Habitat,Diet, Anatomy, Venom strength, Stuff like that is NOT needed I can do all that on my own time) of a vast sum (If your really bored all.) of what I said earlier "genus, family, species, common names and all that jazz" and proper photos (Multiple if bi-color). and dealer websites!!! or people who i can get in contact that has these species.

I don't mean to sound like a whiny prude tromping in and demanding these things on my first post I just really need help with this and I'm under a lot of stress with all the other things I have to research and I don't have the time to go back and forth for one scorpion, as much as id love too there isn't enough time in the day,for me to do so =/

This is for any one who knows the information and is willing to help. I don't want anyone to have to go out of their way for me but I can guess that most of you have already researched this to the fullest extent and know the facts and have the information at hand.



Thank you in advance to anyone who has decided to pick up this task you have no idea how great full I am =))))


- Tripp


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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 6:55 am

Tripp

Exactly what species are you interested in? There are +/- 1800 scorpion species.

Infraorder Orthosterni Pocock, 1911
Parvorder Pseudochactida Soleglad et Fet, 2003
Superfamily Pseudochactoidea Gromov, 1998
Family Pseudochactidae Gromov, 1998
Parvorder Buthida Soleglad et Fet, 2003
Superfamily Buthoidea C. L. Koch, 1837
Family Buthidae C. L. Koch, 1837 (thick-tailed scorpions)
Family Microcharmidae Lourenço, 1996
Parvorder Chaerilida Soleglad et Fet, 2003
Superfamily Chaeriloidea Pocock, 1893
Family Chaerilidae Pocock, 1893
Parvorder Iurida Soleglad et Fet, 2003
Superfamily Chactoidea Pocock, 1893
Family Chactidae Pocock, 1893
Family Euscorpiidae Laurie, 1896
Family Superstitioniidae Stahnke, 1940
Family Vaejovidae Thorell, 1876
Superfamily Iuroidea Thorell, 1876
Family Caraboctonidae Kraepelin, 1905 (hairy scorpions)
Family Iuridae Thorell, 1876
Superfamily Scorpionoidea Latreille, 1802
Family Bothriuridae Simon, 1880
Family Hemiscorpiidae Pocock, 1893 (= Ischnuridae, =Liochelidae) (rock scorpions, creeping scorpions, or tree scorpions)
Family Scorpionidae Latreille, 1802 (burrowing scorpions or pale-legged scorpions)


Just saying. Each of those contain many hundreds of species.
I see you wrote Bicolor.. ANdroctonus Bicolor?

You really have to narrow it down. Cruise around the site, many if not all species available in the hobby should be on it, with pictures and everything.
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 6:58 am

which scorpions do you want to know about?
this site is good for the genus and subspecies and stuff Smile lots of pics too, very reliable site Smile

http://www.ntnu.no/ub/scorpion-files/index.php

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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 7:43 am

Thank you very much! that website is very helpful!

and yes I had interest in the Androctonus Bicolors

I guess I can name the ones im really interested in (forgive me ive been up all night)

african black tailed scorpion
red claw scorpion
desert hairy
Death stalker
anuroctonus pococki
parabuthus


im going to search around on the site Bex showed me and then i can narrow down what im looking for better im really interested in the thick tails

either of you know good dealer websites by chance?
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 7:43 am

thank you both very much
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 8:21 am

Since you said African black tip and Parabuthus in one post, I think you mean

Parabuthus Liosoma, Leiurus Quinquestriatus, Pandinus Cavimanus, Hadrurus Arizonensis and Anuroctonus Pococki

It is easier if you use their real names. Also for others to see.

However in that list are no Androctonus, even less Androctonus Bicolor.

So, please be complete mate and narrow it down Very Happy
Make your own topic on it too. It makes sure, more people answer your needs since you can chose your own topic name.

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 7:26 pm

yea I'm very confused by a lot of this lol and I'm not so great at forums lol this is actually the first forum I've actually tried at.

and the real names is what I've been having issues with until Bex showed me that website I couldn't find for the life of me I hate technology
and yes

Hadrurus Arizonensis
Pandinus Cavimanus
Leiurus Quinquestriatus
Parabuthus transvaalicus

are some of the ones im interested still going to do more research on most of them so I can find other ones I need.



and thank you for clearing things up =D
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/21/2011, 7:39 pm

Some good choices there. I feel that you might want to start your own thread to look for help. Many of us can be of assistance, but it's easier to help if we know what the thread is about. Just go to the Scorpions in general section and click on start new topic.

Welcome to the forum by the way!
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/22/2011, 3:54 am

Awesome.

Thank you all for the information thus far. It seems I'll have to experiment a bit with the light/heat once I am ready to put the plants and scorpions in.

For the 55 gallon tank would a 75 Watt grow light be a good place to start? Or would that be too much/too little?

@Peloquin - What plants did you try introducing to your habitat? I was thinking of having Mammillaria grahamii and Echinocereus engelmannii in the tank.
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/22/2011, 4:10 am

I heat 160 gallons of air to 33 degrees if needed with 4x50w. But it is isolated and no glass.
If you put some math into it, I'd say depending on species 75W might be ok.

Keep in mind that glass does dissipates (written like that?) heat rather quick.
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/22/2011, 4:15 am

I went to a garden center and explained what I was doing. I dont know the scientific names for them but I was advised on some ferns and something with large, red bordered leaves.
Crix just ate them all anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/22/2011, 4:39 am

I'm pretty much have my mind set on getting Hadrurus arizonensis, and from what I've read about the cacti I mentioned they typically get a "day" period of 12-18 hours (depending on season) - so 75W grow light running for 12-18 hours in a 55 gallon glass aquarium = happy scorpion?


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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/23/2011, 11:35 pm

We get anywhere from 10 hrs of daylight during the winter months to almost 15 hrs in the summer.Id think that anywhere in that range would=happy scorpion..
Be sure to give them lots of room to burrow,Ive got 3 in a tank right now & WOW do they love to dig!
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/24/2011, 12:35 am

Arent they rather big scorpions? Must be Swiss cheese your substrate!
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/24/2011, 2:20 am

Theyre not that big.....yet.
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PostSubject: Re: The Questions   6/24/2011, 3:52 am

If you toss whatever you can find from your garden in there, I have no doubt they will grow into little monsters Smile
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