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PostSubject: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:46 am

Guys I saw my P trans with weird, odd looking activity

While she is cleaning her pedipalp, she bent her tail and like stinging itself Sad

Is she sick that way?

Heres the vid ( sorry for the noise and all the movements and for the quality, I used my phone ) lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 9:35 am

She's definitely not sick my friend Smile
Occasionally, mine does that as well. The telson moves in a circular motion touching its "central eye group" and basically over the "forehead". That contact area becomes moist during this process. Some even say that it appears to be using its venom to do some sort of "self-cleaning"...
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 2:57 pm

i know that emps will sting themselves to help calm themselves when they are stressed as my female did that occasionally when i was cleaning the tank or changing the substrate... i cant say that is the case for yours but possible Smile ill look into it more for ya Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 3:21 pm

my P. cav stings himself in the mouth.. well he puts it in his mouth.
they are realy obsessive compulsive cleaners, so i've heard
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 4:03 pm

I'd say they dont sting themselves. I'd say they use their telson as a teethpick. Or maybe the venom contains enzymes that brake down dead matter.. or at least kill bacteria and fungi. That would be my guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 4:46 pm

Stinging themselves is a sign of them being to hot too apparently Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:18 pm

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She's definitely not sick my friend Smile
Occasionally, mine does that as well. The telson moves in a circular motion touching its "central eye group" and basically over the "forehead". That contact area becomes moist during this process. Some even say that it appears to be using its venom to do some sort of "self-cleaning"...

Tnx bro, I kinda worried when I saw her that way Smile

Im relieved now Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:21 pm

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Stinging themselves is a sign of them being to hot too apparently Smile

I sprinkle a very little amt of water on her enclosure Smile

And the room temp says it is 29 C

Thanks ms Bex Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:22 pm

Thank you all guys Smile for the concern Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:23 pm

Hey, your scorp is cleaning itself, no worries Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/8/2011, 7:31 pm

H. laoticus wrote:
Hey, your scorp is cleaning itself, no worries Smile

Thanks for the concern bro Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 2:46 am

*~BEX~* wrote:
Stinging themselves is a sign of them being to hot too apparently Smile

isn't this in extremes when they actually dry out and constrict :/
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 6:05 am

My scorp is dehydrated? affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 12:01 pm

i'm not sure..
they are a desert species i think, so you'd need some high temps to dry them out :/
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 2:36 pm

If a scorpion is subject to temps. higher than 50-65c it's tail agitates and becomes level with it's mesosoma and in some cases the telson pierces the membrane between it's tergites. The scorpion then stops moving and dies, whether it has stung itself or not.
This info was knicked from 'Scorpions of the World' but just thought I would add it as I thought it was really interesting lol. It's crazy how even a desert species of scorpion that is so resistant to drought has a tipping point and dies so quickly and in such a weird way when exposed to high temps.
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 2:47 pm

*BOOM* there we go callum Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 2:55 pm

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying this is what the OP's scorpion is doing as I doubt it is 65c in the tank lol. Just amazing that a scorpion dehydrates so quickly at high temps and commits a kind of pseudo suicide lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:03 pm

naturally Smile

i don't think anything would heat a viv to 65C would it :/
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:12 pm

They have a wax coating on their chitinous exo. They never dry out. They can overheat though.
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:14 pm

^ i was half way there then lol
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:19 pm

How come mate? it was just cleaning itself? Or am I missing something? What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:24 pm

spinnin_tom wrote:
*~BEX~* wrote:
Stinging themselves is a sign of them being to hot too apparently Smile

isn't this in extremes when they actually dry out and constrict :/


^i said this
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 3:25 pm

ah cool, sorry lol
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 4:01 pm

At those temps it is extreme dehyrdration that kills them. From the book lol, 'in fact, it has been severely dehydrated, often irreversibly. Above a certain temperature (50-65c), evaporation from the tegument intensifies and the ''faintin'' bout can be explained by physiological changes in the internal medium (concentration of blood) and an action on the nervous system.
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PostSubject: Re: Stinging itself?   6/9/2011, 4:27 pm

If it has water and food, desert species will not dehydrate fast (i doubt ever, if they have a source to replenish themselves)... it will die though, from being cooked. Scorpions do have a certain temperature range they like to keep their body in.

knock yourself out here

It says, that they do dry out faster at higher temperatures, but usually dehydration only happens to a lethal extend when no water recuperation is possible ea: prey or other water sources. It will still die at those temps though.


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