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PostSubject: Birthday Tarantula   5/5/2008, 3:22 pm

So as mentioned before, for a suprise I was going to buy him one for his birthday next week. Well the cats out the bag and he knows...
We looked today in the shop. One small *but furry* pink toe and one very small, still white mexican red knee.
He doesnt know what want to go for and I said I would ask the "boys".
Now the little white one...is CB but is it worth buying such a small Tarantula?!? Is there a greater risk of dying then one that has hit the fluffy stage?

Is a pink toe or a red knee a good idea for a beginner who will not hold the tarantula. He has already told me that isnt his interest

So what do you guys think?

He also said maybe getting a adult or semi adult is best but...to be honest, we dont know! and I doubt the shop are 100% certain on "age stage" at a guess.

So what do you think? We have until Saturday 10th to decide and then its buying day

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/5/2008, 4:00 pm

hmmm..... i dont know to much about T's but i would mabye go for the older one.
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/5/2008, 5:14 pm

I would go for the Avicularia avicularia. I love them, and you can make them nice decorative enclosures with living plants and stuff Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/5/2008, 8:08 pm

Pinktoes are great, but as an adult you won't know if it's developed any problems or how old it may be -- in fact, the tarantulas of Lori's that have done the poorest were WC adult pinktoes.

A juvenile redknee will last a long, long time . . . and they should be fairly easy to keep at this stage. They can live in tiny containers when they're small like that and only require prey infrequently. They're also less unpredictable than pinktoes (i.e., they don't teleport).

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 10:31 am

hahaha pink toes like to teleport eh!
So the white red knee is a better option then the young pink toe and by young I mean its tiny still!
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 10:33 am

I would say it's a better option. It won't be impressive-looking for a while, but this way you'll get to see it grow and develop.

It's exciting when the molt and suddenly you can see the orange and black! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 10:41 am

I will tell him what you have suggested then.

Now currently its in a vial. Do we buy it in that and just keep it in that? the shop is HOT and humid...but our house isnt....should we get a little tank like the ones I have Teeny and Tiny in?

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 9:02 pm

Just keep it in the vial in a warm spot, like maybe near the tank your scorpions are in.

Here's Lori's rule of thumb for container sizes: 3 legspans wide by 4 legspans long, give or take. A tiny one can be kept in a candy box (Lori used a Rocher container >>picture<<) for quite a while. In fact, for an idea of slow-growingness, Lori kept hers in a container that size for about a year before it outgrew it. It took it that long to get the orange and black coloration.

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 11:06 pm

I would go with the Avic. personally. I have both. And love them both. But the Avic grows so much faster it's a lot more rewarding for me. I am just a sucker for Avics

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/6/2008, 11:23 pm

I just don't trust buying any Avicularia spp from a petstore -- I'm kind of bitter after Lori's experiences. With a sling it's hard to go wrong, and then there's the excitement of watching it grow and molt and develop into its adult colors.

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/7/2008, 2:51 pm

ok. rememeber im not "IN" to tarantulas so only common names will make some sense to me.

There is a pink toe for sale and a red knee for sale. The red knee is a very small spiderling, still white.

I have heard about the chocolate box for a little tank and We happen to have one...hmmm means I have to eat the chocolates by saturday *smiles*...I can see what I can do! *since my fave chocs!*

So when its bought Saturday, the small white one as suggested, just keep it in the vial...or for sturdiness put into the rocher box?
If he wants it in the rocher box....heat mat...yes or no?

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/7/2008, 4:41 pm

No need for heating mat unless you are going to keep them in a very cold room. It will thrive within a span from 20C/68F to 28C/82F. If you can give it something in the middle, it will be very happy.

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/8/2008, 8:57 am

If the vial is 2-3 times the guy's legspan in diameter, he can stay in there another molt or two. If it's smaller than that I'd try putting it in the Rocher container.

Just put in a half-inch or so of peat / coco fiber and you're set! Maybe a bottlecap water dish. Just remember that tarantulas CAN climb sheer surfaces.

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/8/2008, 9:07 am

I take it you mean "if its bigger"...he is teeny tiny so Im guessing the vial will be fine. I will tell adam when I speak to him on the phone tonight or see him tomorrow and we shall go look at the little one again, but to be honest he now has his heart set on the little one.

I have told him "its like a house spider! it will take it a long time to get colour and big"...I mean...wow...I was made to jump by a HUGE house spider about 30 minutes ago when putting some washing into the machine for my parents...wow...it was a big one!!!
I dont do well with spiders...no risk of me interacting with the tarantula

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 11:56 am

Ok the young white red knee was sold. So after leaving the shop and much sulking we went back to look at the older red knee! 65 later with flame knee *thats the same as a red knee right* and tank it was in we are back home with him bouncy as anything!

Ok. Husbandry care advice now.

Shop said no humidity really required, a little bit in one corner but basically they "like it dry"...is this true?

Shop also said water bowl with moss in it or a tarantula sponge...is this true? because I always thought about bacteria! I dont even do that for my scorplings, they have water in a cat cover lid!

Also. He said it was just after its 4th moult and is just over a year old...does the work as truth?

The set up is cork bark hide and soul with silver puff bits in it. Was just recently changed. when we next change it, remove the silver things...which I think begins with V...looks like little worms and expanded in places.

No heat mat at the moment, we had a BOILING hot day today so im not concered, he said if at all a small one only in one corner in winter...

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EDIT ok now he not sure if its a flame knee or flame leg
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 1:04 pm

Flame knees are a different Brachypelma species that are actually quite desirable in the hobby. I think it's Brachypelma boehmei but I could be wrong.

---> Just checked Google's image search. "Mexican flame leg" turned up B. smithi, "Mexican fire leg" turned up B. boehmei.

The care the guy told you is pretty close. Mostly dry with a damp corner and a waterdish. Just don't put the sponge in the dish. I know someone, though, who puts moss in and her tarantula rearranges the moss to wick water to where she (the tarantula) wants it.

Don't worry about the vermiculite. I'd worry more about pearlite, which is abrasive. The age he gave you sounds about right (these guys grow pretty slow, but it's worth the wait).

So, how's Adam like his present? Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 5:14 pm

I was on google earlier looking at the names "smithi etc" and still couldnt decide.
Its legs arent all red and its knees just arent red. Its like the "shin" is red.
I think its the brachypela boehmei to be honest, thats what it says on the website but since searching when I got home I then questioned Adam to what he had had me buy him and thats when the confusion began!

The shop im sure said mexican red knee,because if made me think of the baby one in the vial. But im now thinking its not the smithi.
I think i will get him to call the shop tomorrow and if they dont clear it up a pic will be taken and posted!

We have been out most of the evening to come home and find the little one hugging the glass and peeping into the frog tank. Sweet

It has selotape over the glas vertical sliding door *for my comfort*

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 7:00 pm

I think B. boehmei is actually a bit more sought-after. Sounds like Adam got lucky on that one. Very Happy (I sure think it's a prettier species, anyway.)

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 11:01 pm

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Was just recently changed. when we next change it, remove the silver things...which I think begins with V...looks like little worms and expanded in places.[/i]


Pretty sure the silver things are webs.
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 11:22 pm

She meant in the soil. Probably vermiculite.

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/10/2008, 11:37 pm

oh, i dont know how vermiculite looks like Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/11/2008, 12:02 am

No worries. Smile They might call it something different in your neck of the woods.

>Images link<

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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/11/2008, 1:41 am

Connie go for pokie spicies Very Happy hehe i started there and it worked out fine, its some really good looking Ts.. but if you want a T you can handle abit, i whould go B.smithi or G.rosea
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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/11/2008, 2:33 am

We already got it. Now we trying to find out what we actually bought. Well its now his, a birthday gift.

Ok. lets try to ID it. tried to take a picture on his phone but no memory. After getting rid of all his messages STILL no memory so ive asked my parents to bring the camera over today so I can take a picture *bet it wont be out like it is now*

A small description. Legs coming away from the body have 5 segments. the 3rd segment is red/orange. The WHOLE of the 3rd segment.
The "bum" is black if you like with red/orange hairs over the top.

Does that help? I know its young and colouring could change but now im annoying I dont 100% know what he's got!
Im a bit "funny" like that...

xxxxxxx

Ok phoned shop! they said they think its a mexican flame knee. In google that comes up as a Brachyplema auratum! Yet when I said is that a B. Boehmei he said yes!
But that on google comes up as something else *swoons* its all too much!


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PostSubject: Re: Birthday Tarantula   5/11/2008, 4:24 am

Thats why you never trust pet stores, they will just say yes to what ever you tell them, they know nothing at all.. i doubt you found a B.auratum.. are you sure its not a B.smithi?
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