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PostSubject: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 12:09 am

These i just got and trying to figure out what they are??
there about the same size as S.donesis
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 12:18 am

Hadrurochactas sp.

that's a gorgeous specimen, where'd you get it?
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 12:26 am

Wow that scorp is beautiful.
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 2:14 am

Rasputin,

why do you think Hadrurochactas sp? There are no reports about Hadrurochactas in Argentina.
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 2:17 am

can you think of another genus that occurs in latin america that looks like that and is the size of S. donensis? I can't
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 2:21 am

Unknown sp. from Argentina Hadrurochactasspecies1

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/eycb/scorpions/GamSud.htm

for comparison, courtesy of the Scorpion Fauna


[edit] there are a few Bothriuridae similar but I was unable to track down a pic that fit the bill
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 3:45 am

dammit, now I'm stressing trying to sort out the species. I'm gonna finish the laundry and pass out and sort this out when I wake up
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 7:07 am

he/she is damn beautiful. ive never seen one that looks like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 11:27 am

I would say it's an Urophonius species. Is the area known where the scorpion was collected?
I will check my paper on the Argentinian scorpion fauna for infos how to ID them at night.
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 2:55 pm

this might help as well, it's a life list of scorpions in argentina. the problem is still that I can't find photodocumentation of any of the species that I was to see for comparison.

http://www.efn.uncor.edu/dep/divbioeco/DivAni1/luis/sc/amer/listsc.html
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 4:36 pm

Maybe Urophonius exochus, I found another pic of one that looks similiar, but i cant find the link now. this link isnt the best but you can see the red on the tips of the claws and some of the pattern on them also..
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/bothriurus1.jpg

I'll keep digging to see if i can find anytrhing else..

@ Skywalker if you have a paper on these can you post a link to it or share it.. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 4:42 pm

wburke17 wrote:
Maybe Urophonius exochus, I found another pic of one that looks similiar, but i cant find the link now. this link isnt the best but you can see the red on the tips of the claws and some of the pattern on them also..
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/bothriurus1.jpg

I'll keep digging to see if i can find anytrhing else..

@ Skywalker if you have a paper on these can you post a link to it or share it.. Thanks

where did you get it? were you given the region?

I'm not too sure about that species but as far as genus it could be the same
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 4:48 pm

After comparing the pics with some black & white pics in one of my papers I'm quite sure that it's an Urophonius sp.
I do have a key to ID the genus. But it's in Spanish. Should I just post it or send it via PM? I'm not sure about the copyright issues...When we know the genus I may have a key to determine the species too.
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty5/5/2008, 4:54 pm

you can send it to me and I can translate it
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PostSubject: Re: Unknown sp. from Argentina   Unknown sp. from Argentina Empty12/17/2008, 9:57 pm

good call peter

wburke17

nice lookin little scorpion you got there
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