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PostSubject: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 2:04 am

Hey.

So, it looks like we're gonna a T. A couple of months ago my wife was "warning" me not even to think about a T, that would be "too much" according to her in term of arachnids at home. Well.. people/times change, and yesterday she calls me from work saying she really wants a Chilean Rose. She wants to overcome her fear of arachnids this way, glad she does though, that means more scorpions too Very Happy

Anyway, how good are G. Roseas for beginners? My friend that breeds these, warned that maybe she could pick up something else, as her female is kinda nuts, not docile at all, flicking hairs all around, and also stops eating for several months.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 2:37 am

from what i have been told and read; G. rosea are not very good for starter spiders, but lots of beginners are sold them.
it seems as if lots of people feel that G. pulchra or B. smithi are good starter spiders. they seem to not flick hairs so much and G.pulchra is very docile.. by comparison, but of course, wait for others to reply, since getting 3 or 4 replies is a good way to get a mixed view
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 2:43 am

Thanks Tom.
Lets wait for Peloquin and others to come by. I know he'll doom straight away your suggestion about B. Smithi though lol Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 2:53 am

ha.
he's very good to talk to, defo knows his stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 3:49 am

Lol, cheers.
You are right about smithi- NOT a good starter spider in my opinion. To unpredictable and VERY flicky.
G. pulchra are a real good spider but expencive. An adult costs loads, spiderlings are pretty cheap but are such slow growers you/ your Wife will be bored stupid watching and waiting for it o grow.
G. rosea/ G. porteri (both Chile Rose) are great starter spiders, USUALLY docile, cheap, slow growing but acceptable.
They are usually aggressive when kept too warm. They need no more than room temp, no additional heating needed.
Downside is they are a bit plain, though G. rosea is a little better to look at.

Personally, I'd say go for a Curly Hair- B. albopiosum or Red Rump -B. vagans.
You cant really handle them, though they are pretty docile, the Curly more so. They dont tend to strike or flick hairs, are tough as boots so easy to rear, grow a bit quicker than Chile Rose and are better to look at (vagans are LOVELY).
They do cost a little more, but not too bad price-wise.

However, if the Wife wants a Chile Rose then it's probably safer to get a Chile Rose. Laughing Laughing
A good all round spider that gets to a good size for not much money.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 3:52 am

haha yes he will, because B. smithi can be really flicky however I love my B. smithi. It's one of my spiders that's always out and about doing something.

G. rosea's do get recommended to beginners alot but I think you get the odd nutty one. If you was thinking of handling I'd like to suggest Grammostola pulchripes, Chaco golden knee. Mine is so calm and docile, easy to handle.

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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 4:07 am

My adult female pulchripes was very docile until she got out. I caught her a few days later and now she is evil. She strikes at anything going near her and actually has venom showing on her fangs before she strikes.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 4:10 am

Yeah,
We were talking with the breeder friend and he gave us several other choices, (B. albopilosum,
N. chromatus, G. pulchra, B. auratum ,G. pulchripes). But he didn't like any of them, he told me they're too boring looking, lol. Looks like she've fell in love with the Rose (it's a red morph btw). So I suppose that's what it'll be in the end. I suspect tht won't be the only one though, I can predict an addiction coming, as I've get for scorps. Nothing bad on that though Smile



Well, if she wants the rose so much, she'll get it. When she sees she can't handle it, I'll just "have to" get her a second one Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 4:57 am

Someone here once used the word flickypelma.. I hate them for it.
When I started out I had an Avicularia metallica and a Flickerpelma emilia.

Although both were docile, I think the avicularia was easier to keep and nice to look at.
It never flicked hairs.. then again I never handle any of the inverts.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 5:17 am

Lol, yeah, I've called them Flickypelma for 15 years.
Avics are ok once grown on but, especially as spiderlings they have a habit of just dropping dead.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 5:24 am

Yes I have a few flickypelmas lol and I heard there's a word for the avic sling deaths, SADS (sudden avic death syndrom) Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 6:35 am

i would say go for a B. albopilosum i got one from peloquin and its awesome very docile doesnt leg it like my salmon pink does and is gorgeous, recently molted to and is very cute...

this is her before her first molt in my care...


And here she is just after...



samon pink (lasiodora parahybana) is awesome to though...




and they get to be this big which is really awesome lol...




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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 7:36 pm

My first T was Aphonopelma chalcodes. Its a very slow growing desert species from the southwest US. It's pretty slow moving and generally has a sunny disposition. there are reports of females living for 25 years in captivity. They aren't as pretty as a rosie, but are pretty hardy.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/19/2011, 8:50 pm

I have a grammostola rosea and it is very docile. i got it from a friend as and adult and he handled it quite often. i also have an avic avic and from what i read they are quite docile although they get scared easily but they cant flick their hair. they can only rub it on you ? i laso read that they could jump. i handled my avic 2 or 3 times and it seemed preety calm.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 2:07 am

In the end we chose the Brachypelma auratum, female at around 11i. She's very docile and the colours are stunning.

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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 2:21 am

Looks nice! I hope your lady can begin to find out how amazing tarantulas are.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 2:29 am

Hmmm, ok looking, not quite as flicky but a lot of them are bad tempered.
Massive improvement on a smithi though.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 3:32 am

Much better looking to my eye than a rosea though. I would have taken the pulchra but being just with a single color, it was too boring for her. I'm looking for a cyanopubescens now though for her, but they're nearly imposible to find here.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 3:47 am

Wow it's gorgeous congrats hope they get along well Smile

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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 4:15 am

Well good choice! They are like smithi. A bit more stretched out and darker.
Basically the only difference in Mexican Flame Knees (this one) and Red knees.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/22/2011, 5:01 pm

I can usually get cyanopubescens spiderlings.
I'm happy to try get one and send it out to you but it'd have to be your risk mate. I couldn't guarantee live arrival but cant see much of a problem mate.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/23/2011, 1:57 am

Thanks for the offer mate, I guess as long as it's during the summer period and temps are fine, it shouldn't be a big problem.

I was waiting a friend to confirm whether he can find them from CZ, a he is goind in a couple of weeks to take some inverts and herps from there.

But if you do find something, just PM me with the costs and we may work something out.. june 16th is coming soon too, as my idea was to get it for my wife for our wedding anniversary lol.

Btw. She and the auratum are getting along well. Still a little hesitant about handling but she's very interested and wants to handle it, etc. Smile
And she-she (she named her that way, as I always mix up the genders of ours animals when talking about 'em) seems very docile so far. She hasn't even attempted to flick hairs yet.
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/25/2011, 4:03 am

DolbyR Bro,
She is gorgeous Very Happy
Do you mean 11inch LS?
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/25/2011, 4:08 am

Tanks mate. No, i mean she´s around 10th-11th instar.
LS is probably 4 inches or a bit over. Don´t want to disturb her meal now to measure her Very Happy will do it later though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How good are G. Rosea for beginners?   5/25/2011, 5:10 am

Nice! Apologies for asking, i guess 11i seems obvious to most of the T pros.. ha
I was thinking of 11instar too but still don't wish to assume as it look really big & gorgeous in that pic Very Happy
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