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PostSubject: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/1/2011, 6:32 pm

Hey hey guys first post here on the forum ^^ and i hope i posted this in the right section of the forum so here go
so i bin want to get my hands on a Scorpion bin wanting to get one for a while now just as they just look so awesome Very Happy
and i have bin looking mostly at the most basic one the Emp Scorp but can i use sand for the ground 4 them?
cos i really want to have an desert look theme if not what scorp sud i go 4 then? sorry 4 the n00b questions Very Happy


found this on youtube i want to have my Terrarium some ting like this
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/1/2011, 7:48 pm

You can not use sand for Emps. They need a substrate that can hold humidity well, and can be handled easily because they are a burrowing scorpion. Coco fiber is the most common and best choice for an Emp tank.

I don't know much about the other species, but I believe that Desert Hairys are a good sand based substrate scorpion for a beginner. I want one...
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/1/2011, 7:51 pm

You really should read up on anything you want to keep as a pet beforehand.

Your not gonna want sand because they're not a desert species. The sand wont let them burrow like they would want and they'd just be forced to live under a rock. Emperor's can create some intricate tunnels that sand wont allow.

As for a desert species I couldn't tell you because I don't own any but a rainforest/tropical design can also be awesome. We have a user here named Bex who has an enclosure for her Emperors (which I believe are 3) that is close to a rainforest version of what you want with skulls and tunnels and what not.

Please just be sure to properly do what they need and read up. We have a caresheet section on the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/1/2011, 8:44 pm

Here's a caresheet for emps: http://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/t38-pandinus-imperator-and-most-heterometrus-spp-tropical-forest-scorpions

We have several other caresheets on our caresheet section so check it out!

If you want a desert/sand theme, you really have to get a desert scorpion. Go for Hadrurus arizonensis, also known as the Desert Hairy Scorpion. That video you posted actually belongs to a member on here and he posted a thread about it. I believe the scorpion he put in there was a desert hairy scorpion as well Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 3:50 am

Welcome to the forum Smile

looks like you need to do a bit more research before you do anything, bit i wound advise to go for an emp first, then have a desert species emps are generally more docile than desert species so good to begin with and find your feet kinda thing, we started with an emp and about a month later had a load of other species already, you will get addicted fast we have not been in the hobby all that long and already have 23 scorpions with 5 more on the way no 6 more sorry, and 2 tarantulas.

A good desert species is the desert hairy/ Hadrurus arizonensis or some we have that I think are awesome are Scorpio maurus, both species like to burrow even though they are desert species so should use sand with excavator clay and wet and pack and and leave to dry before putting the scorpion in although some people so use loose sand I'm not sure how they burrow in it. Let us know what you decide, but please please make sure you do your research first there Is plenty Of information on this forum and other places, if you don't do your homework and set there homes upvas naturally as poss you will just have a stressed scorpion with many problems that will more than likely die in months, scorpions molt around 7 times from young to adult so it's crucial for the conditions to be correct for them to do so.

Anyways welcome and Good luck any question feel free to ask Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 5:01 am

i agree with everyone else cant use sand for emps as there a tropical rainforest species .i have had my pair of emps for about a month now they were my first scorps and i reserched how to keep them for about a month befor i got them to make sure i knew how to keep them . all i can say is pls do some more reserch and any questions u may have just ask on this forum u will get all the help u need on her especially from bex she helped me out loads shes awesome lol .
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 9:24 am

^i agree. a lot more research is needed. i almost made a mistake of trying to get a desert species. go for a forest scorpion. any pandinus species. i have a red claw, it is docile and grows to an impressive size, as do emps
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 10:21 am

A docile Red Claw??????

You sure it's not dead?
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 10:30 am

Laughing That was my thinking too, mine are very defensive and spin on the spot to confront me.

Still good for a beginner scorp though because their care is very similar to Emps.

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 11:19 am

Peloquin wrote:
A docile Red Claw??????

You sure it's not dead?

must just be mine then.. it was a nasty phu*ker when i got it home, but after i put it into the tank, i got my hand in and it walked on fine.. ignore the docile red claw then, seems as if they are nasty lol
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 12:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 5:14 pm

Are you sure you have a redclaw lol think you bet get some pics up Tom Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/2/2011, 7:48 pm

Wow didn't expert that much feedback in so short time Very Happy thanks so much Very Happy
and i think i will go 4 and Emp scorp whit coco fiber Wink and try out that and see
how i like it as im 110% sure that i will and work my way from there Very Happy
and allso thanks 4 the caresheet H. laoticus Wink
btw BEX bin sneaking around on your collection and saw the desert enclosure
just gota say wow real real nice i fell in love whit it ^^ where did you get that building you got there?



o and edit Razz not gona just go buy one on impulse just to get that clear gona read up a bit more on the Emp Scrop before i get one
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 1:25 am

Prince of persia enclosure lookalike. Doesnt get much better than that.
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 2:08 am

Think that came from eBay lol Smile its not like that now we got worried and dug haddy up but she was fine hadn't seen her for months shea the scorp that's only eaten once since we got her last november Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 12:14 pm

What a shame, that one is / was pure enclosure porno!
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 12:34 pm

Can't take the credit For it I'm afraid lol all my fiancées doing that one he Is much better than me at designing these things lol Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 3:23 pm

ha... and Bex.. photos on the way.
lovin' that thang as well.. lucky you live with somebody who doesnt dislike 'creepy crawlies' mums getting better through constant exposure lol
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 3:41 pm

I'm very lucky my fiancee is awesome Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 5:01 pm

btw bex.. is that a big exo terra viv? it looks really big. was that another eBay bargain? i need to get some more vivs already lol
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/3/2011, 5:39 pm

It's 30x30x45cm so not huge it's taller the wide so not the best for scorps and yeah another eBay find was about 30 quid with loads of stuff

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/4/2011, 11:07 am

Looks like a good deal you had there.

Tall enclosures mean more air to be heated. On the other hand, it also provides more fresh air (and better air movement since colder air parts will try to cool down the hotter parts => circulation) and if you dont mind the extra expense it brings, heating it.. it will always be healthier for the animals inside.

That said, only for desert species where moistureness is of no issue.

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/4/2011, 11:20 am

we have a 75 watt infrared bulb on it that heats it fine along with the 2 T's and 3 madras so its no problem realy they all share lol Smile

haddy just sits in her burrow all the time so kinda wasted on her really, she never comes out shes weird, she came out a few times when we first got her last november but then she vanished, so in the end we dug her up coz we was worried but she was fine and quickly made a new burrow never to be seen out again (burrowed against the glass though which is handy to check on her lol) Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/4/2011, 11:30 am

lol not even at night???
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PostSubject: Re: Question before buying my first Scrop    5/4/2011, 12:03 pm

nope she never comes out at all, we got her after getting our emp in the hope she would be more active but shes not at all, dont know why, its been nearly 7 months now and she has only eaten once

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