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PostSubject: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 1:10 pm

Hi can anyone tell me if there is a bark scorpion that is not in the buthidae family please?
would love to own a species that would be out on bark, or simular, but all the ones i find are not legal in the uk without a licence, so any help would be appriciated ....thank you

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 1:13 pm

Actually I haven't come across any and I really don't think there are any outside the buthidae family! Chin Scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 1:37 pm

aw Sad really want some ....is there anything kinda simular that would sit out more and climb kinda thing?

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 2:00 pm

But if you want a barkscorpion, just order one bounce Foreksample a Babycurus Jacksoni is a real nice, communal one and the poison is weak, so it wouldn't hurt your daughters if they get stung! And if they are on that forbidden list of yours, then the list is just lame and not based on anything logical Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 2:58 pm

lolz they are deffo on that list...Sad....Buthidae is the largest family of scorpions, and as of 2008 contains about 80 genera and over 800 species, heres a link to wiki and there is a list at the bottom...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buthidae

or just to get a clearer picture of just how many are in the list have a look on the scorpion files/gallery link below there are so many and most are not dangerous at all....pure laziness on however had to make the lists part i think!

http://www.ntnu.no/ub/scorpion-files/gallery.php

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 3:02 pm

That is a lot!

Just too bad I guess! If you wanna stick to the rules, you really are gonna be limited Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 3:18 pm

lol i dont wanna stick to the rules! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 4:47 pm

The don't worry about what scorpion is from buthidae and just order what you want cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 6:01 pm

that be easy if they sold them here lol without asking for licence

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/5/2010, 6:05 pm

You could just order them from abroad! Not saying you should do anything illegal, just saying you could Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 12:58 pm

Try Liocheles Australasiae, they are not really true bark scorpion, they are exactly the opposite of most barkie (Big chela, short metasoma, grow slow etc) but they do live on bark lol
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 2:43 pm

i really do hate the amount of scorps theyve put on dwa, tbh i think its lazyness.
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 2:45 pm

Yes it's really stupid!
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 4:19 pm

that would be cool to have barks not in buthidae i wounde how they would look ?

there is things that are non buthids that are smiilar to barks in some ways
but the problem there is that they are from places like mexico and are not in the hobby
and getting them would not be an easy task at all and mostlikely alot of trouble
so i would look around and see what your options are realy and you may find something
that would fit what your looking for

man i would go nuts withoug centruroides and tityus affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 4:41 pm

Try an Uroctonus Mordax from the states, mr. mordax's favs.

Think they are the closest to bark scorpions not in buthidae imo
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/6/2010, 9:40 pm

U. mordax aren't really like bark scorpions at all. They hide and burrow most of the time.

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 7:35 am

So conclusion is that the only way to get bark scorpions is to get bark scorpions (which apparently is only available from the buthidae family)! No "look-a-likes" or anything like that... So Bex: DO IT! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 7:45 am

That seems like the only option lol

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 7:53 am

What specie are you set on then? Any favourit? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 7:56 am

I really wouldn't advise trying to import DWA animals into the UK without a DWA. It will only end badly and give the hobby a bad name. Especially discussing it on an open forum. We just have to make the most of what we can get. I think this needs to go more in the direction of finding more cool scorps from other non buthidae families to import in.

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 8:14 am

I disagree Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 8:22 am

Thats fair play mate, it's all opinions. I disagree with the DWA as much as anyone else, it is just laziness putting all buthids on there. I'd love to be able to have the scorps you non DWA restricted people have but I think its very risky for the receiver and sender.

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 8:33 am

I wouldn't want to import them too risky, I know there are quite a few people with buthidae species in the uk, and seriously looking into getting the license once Christmas is out of the way, seems to be a one off payment down here at dover so gonna contact the council after Xmas and find out for sure

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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 8:44 am

Yeah it is a yearly payment, it can range from 20 to 2000 depending on the council. The trouble is all the precautions they check you out on. I found this from a post on RFUK:

To apply for the license you will need to contact your local council, theres no point in going into too much depth because all councils are different but as a general rule you will need:

A locked escape proof room.

A sign on the entrance room of the door warning of what is inside the room.

Locked vivarium also with warning signs.

Relevant handling equipment.

Public liability insurance.

You may need.

A back up handler, alot of times this is the case.

Envenomation protocols, which even if they dont ask for them specifically these are very very important to have.

To be able to turn the light on from either just inside the room or outside before you go in.

A covering letter of proof of being mentored and relevant training.

A double door entry system.


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PostSubject: Re: Bark Scorpion - non buthidae family?   12/7/2010, 8:51 am

http://www.dover.gov.uk/licensing/other_licences/dangerous_wild_animals/dwa_applications.aspx

Need to look into it more gonna pop in the council offices soon and gave a chat with someone

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