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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 5:44 am

Could do in the summer I guess I have no idea on what I can and can't legally send anywhere though lol but as they are not native to this country I can def get some lol, how long would they take to get to you? Is it ok for them to travel for long periods ( I'm guessing yes lol)

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 5:52 am

are there any american import laws on inverts? because these could quite easily be native in america if you were to loose a few...
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 5:53 am

I just noticed, sweet sig Bex Very Happy

This idea of them not being native to the UK gives me ideas about introducing species into the US. I know it's probably a bad idea, but I can't help thinking about what awesome species can survive over here and how that would impact US hobbyists!
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 5:58 am

its illegal to introduce a non native species into a country, however they arent really invasive or a threat to much except very tiny insects.
anyway, discussing illegal things isnt allowed on this forum so lets not go there...
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 6:01 am

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I just noticed, sweet sig Bex Very Happy

This idea of them not being native to the UK gives me ideas about introducing species into the US. I know it's probably a bad idea, but I can't help thinking about what awesome species can survive over here and how that would impact US hobbyists!

Thanx.... And we had the same thoughts about introducing to other places here lol no more said...... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 6:05 am

And on the export import thing I really have no idea obviously it's not allowed to let them go in the wild but to keep as pets must be ok however they can be pretty strict on things coming into the uk but will have to find out about going out and into US wouldn't want to be breaking any laws really lol

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 6:15 am

Yes, I know it's bad, but I was just entertaining the idea because it could potentially be really awesome Smile
I wasn't going to do it though Razz
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 11:11 am

It IS a bad idea to introduce non-native species into the wild. Evil or Very Mad Hell, look at what happened to Australia . . .

Anywho, regarding catching E. flavicadus in the UK, there was a group on this forum that planned on doing just that a year or two ago . . . the problem is, the docks are restricted for some reason and they wouldn't have been allowed in. Sorry.

And yes, the US's Uroctonus mordax are remarkably similar to Euscorpis spp. They can be found mostly in California and Oregon, and Ken the Bug Guy sells them.

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 11:18 am

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It IS a bad idea to introduce non-native species into the wild. Evil or Very Mad Hell, look at what happened to Australia . . .

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JUST DON'T DO IT! It can be a catastrophe to the native species!
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 11:39 am

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are there any american import laws on inverts? because these could quite easily be native in america if you were to loose a few...

U. Mordax almost the same huh? I'll have to check it out, are they very small like that??
I was just thinking it would be very cool to have the story of them colonizing the UK and it is the only place in the country they are found.

As for legality for introducing them into the wild, I'd agree that it would be illegal but as for import export laws, I believe this falls on a state level and as for WI we can have anything unless it is on the endangered species list or protected species list and then if you wanted something I believe it may be possible with the right permits.

To have scorps sent to my residence would not be a problem. I am just curious, maybe let me know when you are going again next summer Bex and we can look into it if you wouldn't mind, otherwise I may end up with some U. Mordax at that point. If I still have H. Spinigerus left and you want some I am thinking that would be legal to send to the UK. Otherwise I could always breed them again Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 11:49 am

yeah will be going again next summer, if it was warm enough for them to be out now we would be there lol,

and Mr Mordax as they are not actually in the docks its not a problem i think the people last year may have been looking in the wrong place as they are also in a wall on a public road right opposite houses and shops we parked in a space right in front of the wall and took 3 steps and there they were all in the cracks and stuff...link to original post....

http://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/scorpions-in-general-f12/sheerness-dockyards-yellowtail-scorpion-colony-uk-t5330.htm?highlight=sheerness

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 8:12 pm

Shawn, yes, U. mordax are remarkably similar . . . just do a Google image search (granted, some are from my old blog so all you'll get are the thumbnails). Regarding import laws, I contacted a DFW official a while back and they said it's ok as long as they come through an authorized port of entry. Releasing them, however, is a whole other issue . . .

Bex, looks like you lucked out. It's too bad LadyRiotControl isn't active on here, or she'd be all over a trip down there. Very Happy (She's still around on Facebook, though.)

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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 10:43 pm

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Shawn, yes, U. mordax are remarkably similar . . . just do a Google image search (granted, some are from my old blog so all you'll get are the thumbnails). Regarding import laws, I contacted a DFW official a while back and they said it's ok as long as they come through an authorized port of entry. Releasing them, however, is a whole other issue . . .

Bex, looks like you lucked out. It's too bad LadyRiotControl isn't active on here, or she'd be all over a trip down there. Very Happy (She's still around on Facebook, though.)

Thanks for the confirmation on U. Mordax, I quickly checked Kens and it looks like he doesn't have any unless I missed them. I wouldn't get anything new until next summer anyways unless it is on my wanted list which I should turn into my really wanted list as everything seems to be on the wanted list Very Happy If they are in Northern Cali maybe I'll go hunting for them myself when I go back for a visit too, sounds like best luck would be just after the rainy season though.

Thanks for confirming my thoughts on the import laws in the US, that is exactly what I thought including the wild release (def a no no)

I just recently friended up with LadyRiotControl as I found her on there and she is pretty cool, very approachable and by the sounds of it very busy. She is involved with the following group if you are in the UK:

http://www.manchesterinverts.co.uk/

I believe that it's an open group, if I'm mistaken I'll have to remove it from this post as I don't want to tick anyone off.


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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/3/2010, 10:46 pm

Bang Head Lolz, isn't that a U. Mordax on your avatar there Mike?? *shakes head!!
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PostSubject: Re: few pics of Euscorpius flavicaudis from uk   12/4/2010, 4:22 am

They don't call me Mr. Mordax for nothin'! Wink

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