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mezzle992
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PostSubject: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/14/2010, 3:32 pm

im getting a bearded dragon next week and they require a uvb bulb, and i need to keep it in the same room as all my scorps and turantulas, i know that if scorps are exposed to uv then it can harm them, will it be ok if i kept that in the same room as the scorps?
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/14/2010, 4:02 pm

I'm sure it can harm them, but there's no real test to show how much exposure and how long it takes for the effects to occur.
Where will you be placing the bearded dragon tank? Will it be right next to your scorps?
If the bulb isn't on your scorps, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/14/2010, 4:08 pm

there will be a desk partialy covering the beardie tank and about 4 feet between them
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/14/2010, 4:11 pm

Ok, I wouldn't worry about that.
I think this whole thing about UV rays and scorps has gone a bit out of control. I mean, desert hairy scorpions are exposed to UV rays all the time in their dry/arid habitats and so are many other animals as well as humans. The smart thing to do is not to stay in it for too long haha
So yes, your placement of the tank will be just fine Smile
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/15/2010, 4:41 am

the UVA & UVB spectrum does not travel that far well with man made bulbs,
@ Mezzle,
Hay i just remembered this web site
it is one i think all reptile and inverts keepers should read, it covers it all,
so here is the link( UV Guide )...
i hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/15/2010, 5:01 am

H. laoticus wrote:
I mean, desert hairy scorpions are exposed to UV rays all the time in their dry/arid habitats


this is not meant to be anything but fact H. laoticusso.
so please do not take it the wrong way man.
but the desert hairy is a nocturnal hunter in the wild here in AZ.
and you rarely see them out in the heat of the day,
i find them under rocks & in burrows with geckos and rattle snakes a lot
so they rarely get any UVA or UVB Light.
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/15/2010, 5:13 am

DLP wrote:
H. laoticus wrote:
I mean, desert hairy scorpions are exposed to UV rays all the time in their dry/arid habitats


this is not meant to be anything but fact H. laoticusso.
so please do not take it the wrong way man.
but the desert hairy is a nocturnal hunter in the wild here in AZ.
and you rarely see them out in the heat of the day,
i find them under rocks & in burrows with geckos and rattle snakes a lot
so they rarely get any UVA or UVB Light.

Yeah, I understand that they are nocturnal creatures, but what I am saying is that there is a big scare going around about how even a touch of UV rays will harm scorpions. This is simply not true. I used the desert hairy as an example because they do get exposed to UV rays, whether or not it is a small amount. UV rays can be reflected off of objects and are almost inescapable. Keeping scorpions in our homes probably already subjects them to UV radiation and is probably more than what they would get from the wild.
Due to the damage varying between factors such wavelength, amount of exposure, and amount of time exposed, it's highly unlikely that a scorpion will receive any harmful effects from the flick of a blacklight or from a bulb off in the distance. Hopefully I have cleared things up and don't worry, I could see what you were saying Smile
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PostSubject: Re: is it safe?   is it safe? Empty11/15/2010, 5:56 am

the UV issue/debate is way out of line
that is why i posted that link if its UV info its on there lol

ya i get all you are saying man,
because the scorps i have in the house that are from just outside are on a day time schedule but the ones i study in the wild are just the opposite,
it just blows me away how much they can adapt because like you said in our homes they are subjects to UV in different ways and amounts.
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