This is my communal enclosure:



There are six hides and six inches of substrate with a false bottom setup. Five months ago I bought six adults (two males and four females) and added them to the enclosure all at once. In five months four (maybe five, I haven't seen one of them in weeks, but that's normal) of those scorpions have died in some way and have been eaten at least partially before I learned of their deaths. I've never seen any type of fighting or sparring, and I have cleaned the enclosure with bleach and added new substrate twice since they started dying off. None have ever shown signs of old age before turning up dead and eaten. They were all about the same size when I added them.

I also have a much smaller enclosure in which I was keeping three subadults in similar conditions and two of those have died.

Did I do something wrong or do I just have horrible luck?

Well it can't be coincidence surely if it happened in the other tank as well.

I think the problem is perhaps what's in your set-up. I.e. Perhaps it's that moss you're using rather than 100% coir or the plants maybe.

Did you ensure that all the bleach was removed each time you cleaned the tank?

What are you feeding them?

Do your tanks have any ventilation?

The moss is sphagnum moss. The plants are two Pothos and ... unfortunately I don't know what the other two are anymore.

Yes, all of the bleach was removed and I let it air dry for about an hour before adding the substrate.

I'm feeding them crickets purchased from PetSmart.

The tanks have plenty of ventilation and I've seen no sign of parasites or fungi.

Could the cat's litter box being in the same room be the problem?

Hmmm , well spahgnum moss is perfectly fine.

Pothos plants haven't seemed to have caused any problems for others so I'd assume they're not the source either.

I doubt it would be the litter box... I'm thinking that perhaps the other plants have something to do with it as I've heard (I don't use plants in mine so I can't say for definite) that there are specific plants such as pothos that are the best to use because they don't require all the nutrients in the soil or give off pores or something like that.

Perhaps someone who knows about them can say whether they could have been a problem or not.

What is the temperature of the enclosure?

What kind of water are you giving them?

75-90.

Distilled.

Any household chemicals near the enclosure? Have you or anyone else been spraying anything in the air that may be toxic to them?
Have you sighted any ants near the enclosure? A few of my scorpions died while I looked at them, not knowing that they were getting jumped by a bunch of tiny ants I couldn't see.

Please list any and all materials in the setup. What was the water used to dampen the substrate?
What are those white hides made of?

It's just so bizarre that you've had that many losses and in two separate enclosures.

Any scorpions that appeared gravid? They've been reported to become hostile toward tank mates and kill.

Actually, do you mind taking a few pics of your scorpions? I know it's the emp section, but anything helps, just in case a few or one of them may be mistaken for P. cavimanus since they do appear very similar at times.

No chemicals, no spraying (but that's why I asked about the litter box - urine, feces, and clay dust), no ants ... but there are gnats.

Materials:
River stone bottom - backed at 450 for 45 minutes.
Eco-Earth substrate.
Sphagnum moss.
2 Pothos, 1 Schismatoglottis, 1 spider plant.
1 cork piece.
4 ceramic hides.
1 ceramic water dish.
1 sunlamp (for the plants, 6-8 hours a day).

I haven't seen any that appear gravid, and I just fed them three days ago so they're in their borrows. I don't like disturbing them and stressing them out, so I'd like to wait to get you the pictures but if you need them ASAP I can start digging.

Nothing.... you didn't do anything wrong that is a very nicely done enclosure... with adequate substrate.... my sincere compliments....

1. Gravidity in scorpions is hard to determine... so good news inspite of the loss... you will have more LOL

2. Females will take out rivals the y determine to me condition... despite what many people say... I think an equal ratio keeps a community happy... you've got that... stick with this for awhile....

*3. at a later you might wanna isolate the females if they become overtly aggressive to their tankmates...
you can leave the males in there... when they are well fed, they won't have issues with each other.... the females on the other hand will have their maternity rooms... awwwww.... gestation may be up to a year with scorpionids... and gravid females are always hungry so stuff them to the brim... until they are filled... then you can leave them be for virtually forever... try one pinky mouse... no more than that... iron vs copper body fluids....

so keep it up... keep humidity high.... heat only lamp on a secluded area away from the hides. Increase in temperature may result in increase aggression... so cycle night and.. day... mist on a frequent basis... keep the moss gleaming with condensation... at all times...

i trust you will have a rewarding keeping experience...
You don't need to good luck when you know you got it right in the first place... scorpions will be scorpions...

cheers

well, I'm stumped because it seems like everything is good.
I'm curious with the pictures, but don't worry about it. Whenever they're out and you can snap a shot that'd be fine. I also use pothos in my setup and I know that isn't a problem because they've been doing fine for over 2 years. I agree, great looking setup

It seems to be TOO many scorpions in 1 small tank, they're all terrirotorial and only the strong shall survive. Even though there is 6 hides doesnt mean they will use ALL 6 hides. Try use a bigger tank or even perhaps separate half of them.

I am having a problem with scorps as well. mine just hit 3rd instar a few months ago, they just killed one of their siblings, i found her eatin up under neat a log.. freshly killed as well...

i am making the change tomorrow to divide them, or something... still not sure of it yet.


GL with yours and try to separate Adults.

looks like a 15 gallon or 20 gallon to me.. how bigs the tank then?