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PostSubject: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/21/2010, 7:15 pm

going to morocco again next easter and determined to look for scorps this time. i did a thread about this last year but cant find it so oh well...
what scorps am i likely to come across out in morocco. and also in spain, and what tarantulas and other bitey things (saw a nice scolopendra sp. last time but didnt know about the bite, luckily it was gone when i came back to grab it!!!).

i will be in all kinds of habitats.
salt plains, dunes, wasteland , dense cacti and other sharp brittle things, snow covered mountains and at one point a forest (full of monkeys!).
so what am i likely to find where?
this time were going as a group of friends, not as a tour like last time (most were a bunch of bankers and london-ers with too much money and no real interest in nature), so i am taking several Blacklights and am taking them scorp hunting!

i have, in preparation for the pissed off LQ's and that sort:
thick boots (with everything tucked in)
tweezers
36" litter picking up thing.
various tubs in different sizes thicknesses (and most things i catch will double or even triple contained, you know container inside a container thing)
Canon 450D DSLR with macro filters (just clip on magnifying glasses but they work) so i can show you guys and get positive ID.
proper torch (3D LED Maglite)

if the protective gear doesnt work and something is still trying to get me i will bring a sample of it back on the bottom of my boot Very Happy Wink

i plan to catch, photograph and release as much as possible of the wildlife and write up something about them to give to people in the future when we go again. taking a big net for the lizards this time! damn they are fast!!!

i dont want to bring any of those murderous DWA monstrosities back with me and have no wish to do anything illegal so i am curious what the laws are on bringing other things back. i want to keep some of the dung beetles and dune beetle things (they outrun me on a 40 degree (downhill) dune slope with ease.) but dont know the laws on these non dangerous or invasive (basically entirely harmless) critters. if not then what are the laws on bringing dead specimens of certain things i find?

if you read all that and can answer some questions i owe you a bar of chocolate because even i cant be bothered to proof read it all. sorry for spelling mistakes, im sure you can see what i mean most of the time Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/22/2010, 7:52 am

Androctonus Mauritanicus

Androctonus Liouvillei

Buthus Atlantis Atlantis

Buthus Malhommei

Hottentotta Franzwerneri Gentili

Scorpio Maurus Fuliginosus

Other Scorpio Maurus sp.


Buthus Ibericus + Buthus Montanus (previously classified as Buthus Occitanus)

Belisarius Xambeui

Euscorpius Flavicaudis

Euscorpius Balearicus


Scorpions from Morocco

Scorpions from Spain
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/22/2010, 5:08 pm

they the most likely ones to find? or actually all there is?
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/22/2010, 7:04 pm

Those are all the species actually in morocco & spain.
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/23/2010, 7:39 am

that it!? blimey. i will see if i can get the whole Moroccan collection then! Very Happy Wink
anyone know about the laws of transporting harmless live bugs like dung beetles and what the laws are like on dead specimens?
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/23/2010, 8:57 am

oh, and im assuming the top 5 moroccans have potentially fatal stings and so do the top two buthus from spain, but what about the Belisarius?
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/27/2010, 11:41 pm

Moving anything across international borders is generally a bad idea.

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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/30/2010, 3:33 pm

anything live? thats a shame...
we plan to not get searched if at all possible Very Happy its not nice when they pull all the trim off your car looking for drugs and leave you to put it back together, especially when you build the car yourself! Sad
although we are going as a bit of a group and obviously on holiday and the border people already know exactly who they are going to stop and search before your within 100miles of the place. and they dont want to search tourists because then they get less people in the country buying stuff for 12x the normal price and still sure they have a bargain!
i have only been once but the rest of the company have taken about 7 trips over there and had no trouble really (even though there were a stack of ammo boxes in one car which still had the explosive warnings on them! (they had tools and parts in them). they can tell who is up to no good and who is on holiday.

i might just ask them on the way through... im sure they wont actually give a damn, there looking for drugs and guns, not common moroccan beetles.

i know its getting close to talking about illegal stuff, and i dont want to do that... i will edit it if it is a bit too close.
i need info not a closed thread Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Morocco Trip - what to look for?   7/30/2010, 3:45 pm

who knows dude...
maybe youll stumble upon the ever elusive, almost non existant, nice government agent that'll tell you they really dont care =)

two thumbs up if you really ask them, i hate talking to them personally
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