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PostSubject: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 11:36 am

Hello,

I have a new AF who is thought to be gravid. I have been told the presents of a black chord under the dermis will confirm if she is gravid or not. Other than that I have no other information.

Does anyone know what this chord is called? What is its function/association with the gestation period?

Are there other features I should look for?

As much depth as possible please.

Thanks.

This is the female in question.





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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 11:52 am

Hehe good to see you joined Smile
Im stil not 100% as shes looking a bit small still lol
Take a picture of the pectines just so we can confirm its female
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 12:41 pm

Hi mate.

There's nothing for you to scale size against in these photo's but trust me she is big! I will get some more pictures of her next to something, I will try and get an underside shot of the pectines, though I have never been very good at them.
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 12:47 pm

I mean she doesnt look big as in very fat, she looks a lil chunky, obviously If she keeps getting bigger without really eating you will know for definite Laughing

Just put her in an empty cricket tub to take the pic
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 1:24 pm

Ah right! Yeah, I know, maybe she is just well fed. The guy I bought her of was feeding her only two large cricket every 8 days, I don't know if this helps?

Depending on her body orientation she looks fatter or leaner, when she walks I she seems to stretch and the bulk seems to vanish. When resting its much more apparent.

Here's some more info and photographs.

She weighs 33.5g.

Shot of pectines. This is the best I could to.



Next to a British penny (20.32mm diameter).

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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 4:29 pm

Well, for starters that looks a hell of a lot like an emperor rather than a heterometrus sp.

She (if its definitely a she) does look pretty round when not in threat position, but is still a long way away from being heavily gravid.

(When she looks more like a tennis ball kind of round) is when she will be nearer the stage.
As for the black chord (heart) I cannot see it in the pictures.
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 4:35 pm

binksy I dont think He ever said It was a heterometrus lol
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/3/2010, 8:19 pm

he said it was a new AF...
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 3:57 am

Emperors are from ghana. Heterometrus sp are from Asia Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 6:12 am

binksyboy3 wrote:
Emperors are from ghana. Heterometrus sp are from Asia Smile

Im more than aware of that Razz

but still I dont see why you thought he said it was Heterometrus,
I mean he posted it in the emp section and never mentioned the species lol
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 2:46 pm

He called it an "AF" ie asian forest ie het. sp Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 2:48 pm

lol this is kind of amusing to watch
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 3:34 pm

I just don't undertsand where we are trying to go with this. It is simple. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 5:21 pm

The acronym stands for Adult Female.
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/4/2010, 7:20 pm

binksyboy3 wrote:
He called it an "AF" ie asian forest ie het. sp Razz

See its clearly you being retarded as AF stands for adult female lmao

I have never seen anybody on here use AF to mean anything other than that lol
The only abreveations I really see are P.imp and LQ stuff that cant realy be confused
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/5/2010, 9:47 am

Anyone able to help? Not that pressing but any tell tail signs may be usefull.
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/5/2010, 11:36 am

Not eating but still getting fat.
The black chord going down the back being visible
In some species you can see the young through the sides using a torch
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/5/2010, 2:34 pm

Razz , I always thought it was Asian forest. My bad. Its just that i've never seen someone say AMS
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/6/2010, 4:55 pm

The only admin to read this thread thought it was "Asian Forest," as well. Therefor, I'm right, and everyone else is wrong. Razz (Kidding).

This is why acronyms are so useless in this hobby.

Anywho, to the OP -- she's incredibly fat, but it's hard to say "gravid" at this point. When I had an Heterometrus sp., right before she looked like a little football with pinchers and I could clearly see the black cord (her heart, as mentioned) between her tergites. She also drank a lot of water leading up to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/6/2010, 7:43 pm

so mike your saying that you assumed that AF when posted in the emperor zone of the forum could mean asian forest lol
your not normal
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/7/2010, 1:40 am

I read posts from the "view new posts" feature rather than scrolling through the whole of the website, so I don't always notice which section they've been posted in. tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/7/2010, 6:38 am

It srill says emperor zone in two places so ner ner lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/7/2010, 12:21 pm

Stop deciding on the meaning of AF and talk about if the thing is gravid or not..
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PostSubject: Re: Diagnostic features of gestation.   3/7/2010, 1:36 pm

anemiaffx wrote:
Stop deciding on the meaning of AF and talk about if the thing is gravid or not..

Ok . . .

lycanlord wrote:
I mean she doesnt look big as in very fat, she looks a lil chunky, obviously If she keeps getting bigger without really eating you will know for definite

binksyboy3 wrote:
She (if its definitely a she) does look pretty round when not in threat position, but is still a long way away from being heavily gravid.

(When she looks more like a tennis ball kind of round) is when she will be nearer the stage.
As for the black chord (heart) I cannot see it in the pictures.

Mr. Mordax wrote:
she's incredibly fat, but it's hard to say "gravid" at this point. When I had an Heterometrus sp., right before she looked like a little football with pinchers and I could clearly see the black cord (her heart, as mentioned) between her tergites. She also drank a lot of water leading up to it.

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